Re: NANFA-L-- Preserves...


Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- Preserves...
From: Dave McNeely (dlmcneely-in-lunet.edu)
Date: Wed Aug 11 2004 - 15:05:57 CDT


Carbon dioxide works well, and alka seltzer tablets work very well as a
carbon dioxide source. just drop a tablet or two into water containing the
fish. They'll "go to sleep," and you can then add the necessary quantity of
formaldehyde solution to fix them.

McNeely in Oklahoma

----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua L. Wiegert <JLW-in-dune.net>
To: <nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- Preserves...

> Todd --
>
> I haven't managed to attract one of those, either. :)
>
> Seriously though -- I know hwat you mean about putting fish into formalin.
> I've done it before, straight from the water to the formalin, and beyond
the
> fact that the fish often thrash and damage themselves, I have issues with
it
> being a bit inhumane. You can use a number of various drugs that'll
slowly
> put the fish to sleep, or-in-least anethestize it -- I'm blanking as to
any
> of the common trade ones right now. You can also put the fish in a large
> bag or bucket of water and surround it with ice, and put it down that way
> before putting into the formalin bath.
>
> JW.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Crail" <farmertodd-in-buckeye-express.com>
> To: <nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 9:56 PM
> Subject: NANFA-L-- Preserves...
>
>
> > Hi Gang,
> >
> > Well I have a short picturementary here to share from my week teaching a
> > camp on native fish-in-the Toledo Zoo. I'll write up something much
more
> > detailed next week, but I do have a question for now.
> >
> > I have a fiesty lil' animal I need to preserve...
> >
> > So that the next time I do some of this:
> > http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/zoo/01.jpg
> >
> > When I have some of these:
> > http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/zoo/02.jpg
> >
> > And we DON'T miraculously catch (and immediately release :) one of
these:
> > http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/zoo/03.jpg
> >
> > That still, amazingly, had one of these:
> > http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/zoo/04.jpg (kickin' yerself now Mr Z?
:)
> >
> > That I can STILL attract one of these:
> > http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/zoo/05.jpg
> >
> > The idea here is... I don't want a personal formalin bath (from this
thing
> > flying around when I put him down) and I would like to maintain as much
of
> > the skin color for as long as possible (ie ethanol frosting ain't cool).
> > Suggestions? Maybe I can put him down with Isopropyl alcohol and then
> move
> > him into the more permanent formalin crypt.
> >
> > Is that going to burn his silky skin (the isopropyl)? I know it doesn't
> do
> > damage to scaled fishes... But I don't want to flub this one up.
> >
> > I can not believe how much these things slime and poop. I've changed
the
> > water twice now since midnight last night and the water still has a
> blackish
> > tint to it. Hoping to put him down nice n gentle tomorrow as early as
> > possible, so as to not border on inhumane :)
> >
> > Todd
> > The Mighty Maumee Madness, Toledo, OH
> > It's never too late to have a happy childhood.
> > http://www.farmertodd.com
> >
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