Re: NANFA-- NANFA - Black carp Part I & II

Steffen Hellner (steffen_at_hellner.biz)
Thu, 3 Apr 2003 22:55:30 +0200

Jeff,

nothing to add. What to say. It4s my beloved Germany.
Here asylants are getting golden teeth for free while fee-payers in the
social insurency only get plastics.
If I had a chance I would go elsewhere but I have a job closely connected to
my mothertounge - copywriter.
And I have my son of first marriage. Won4t be able to come with me legally.
So I stay and hope it won4t get worse too fast.
I can stand the situation here as I am married to my lady of dreams.

But still most people over here think of german cars as best, our people are
poets and thinkers (haha!), americans are undereducated (guess where I was
offered Bruckner and Furtwdngler music for italian diner? Texas!), our
machines are most wanted and there is nothing why people might not like us.
Well, look at our economy and politics. Our people in general are weak,
yellows and cowards, don4t have an own oppinion but are the best mobbers you
can think of. Oh yes, the missing backbone I forgot. Really don4t like my
own "fellow citizens". Next will be the realization of the plan "speed limit
80 for motorbikes". Latest then I will have to think about my future
location more seriously.

Not to moan, there are positive things as well. Sorry, don4t have one in
mind actually.

But for the collection in your area, that4s an opportunity to keep in mind.
I4ll come back on that. Spring 04?

Steffen

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey Fullerton <tcmajorr_at_westol.com>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- NANFA - Black carp Part I & II

> Steffan
>
> I'm catching up on the NANFA list. I get the digest version so sometimes
> I don't always read everything unless there a thread of particular
> interest.
>
> In regard to the laws in Germany It's great to be living here. Even if
> Pa fishing licenses seen attrociously expensive in contrast to other
> states- I can probably get a non-resident Maryland or Ohio license
> cheeper than what I pay here and cheeper beyond a shadow of doubt than
> what Ray Wolff or Mark Binkley would have to pay for the priviledge of
> dipping a seine in our waters.
>
> More likely Pennsylvania would be a staging area for my out of state
> guests to make trips to more interesting places like the Jersey Pine
> Barrens or Southern Maryland or North Carolina. I could show them some
> of Greenlick's Rainbow Darters but I think that would bot be worth the
> exorbitant fee for an out of state license.
>
> This still pales in comparison to what I hear is the situation in
> Germany and other European countries.
>
> I met a guy once in my travels about the local area. He was at Cranberry
> Glade Lake in Somerset Co with a bunch of kids he was hosting from
> Germany. They were getting perhaps the only fishing experience of a
> lifetime. The kids even got to fish for free because they were under 16.
> No so in Germany. Something as simple as fishing over there requires a
> special class to learn all the rules and such that costs something like
> $500 dollars and likewise for hunting. Even more interesting I heard
> that if you are hunting when you do go out you are acompanied by a 'game
> warden' who even selects what you shoot and he gets to keep it for
> himself. If that is true I pray Americans will never stand for anything
> like that.
>
> As for some of the common sense defying rules you mentioned- like legal
> protection for naturalized exotics and fining people for dipping brine
> shrimp or mosquito larvae - some states in the USA have some equally
> absurd rules and even rules that are downright bizzare. Like it is
> illegal to hunt whales in Arkansas and this one really takes the cake :
> in Kansas you can take reptiles and amphibians will all manner of
> devices and weapons. I learned of this in a "Field Guide to Herpetology
> & the Law" which quoted the rule and had a photograph of a variety of
> nets, traps, snares spears and firearms including an M-16 & AK-47
> captioned : Legal Herp Collecting Equipment in Kansas!
>
> AK-47s?
> Makes me wonder if they have open season on T-rex or Velociraptors!
>
> Jeff

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