In my reply about this topic I forgot to mention water changes because I am
probablvy the "world champion in heavy water changing". I usually change 100
% in breeding tanks or species tanks (mostly killis) every week. With young
fishes I do this 2 to 7 times a week depending on species and size. My
philosophie is that fish are the healthier the more frequent water changes
they get (with some limited exceptions for highly specialized fish from
Hope your "lepomis salinus" make it!
> Von: BR0630_at_aol.com
> Antworten an: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> Datum: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 14:49:33 EDT
> An: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> Betreff: NANFA-- RE: diseased sunfish
> Thanks to everyone who responded to my questions about diseased fish.
> a synopsis of what I did to treat my fish: I did an approximate 20% water
> change and plan to continue with the water changes at least twice a week.
> then took a couple of the fish with the most pronounced signs of the
> "dandruff" looking disease and dipnetted them and while still in the net
> them in a tray with regular table salt in a trace of water. I allowed the
> fish to flop and made sure they flopped on both sides of their body. The
> immediate result had me thinking I'd killed the fish as they arched their
> bodies upon replacement into the aquarium and remained rigid without
> breathing for what seemed an intolerable period of time, but was probably
> only 15-20 seconds. They sank to the bottom, basically encrusted with a
> layer of salt, as though in shock. After the aforementioned 15-20 seconds,
> very slowly, they started breathing again. And very shallow breathing.
> After a couple of minutes they righted themselves and began to swim, mostly
> just with their bodies and then they'd rest on a log or some plants. Their
> fins were depressed next to their bodies. The salt had dissolved and they
> looked like they'd just taken a drubbing. By the following morning, they
> were swimming normally and ate with their normal appetite. The 'dandruff'
> was all gone except for a little on their pectoral fins and none was gone
> from the entire dorsal part of their body. I have yet to see any of the
> pumpkinseeds try to rub their bodies on logs, rocks or anything else. The
> treated fish appear and act like they feel better and are in what I'd call
> good color. This was probably drastic measures, but at least the short
> results are positive. I'm now considering taking a soft paint brush with
> salt to try to remove the 'dandruff' from the dorsal parts of the fish.
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