Re: NANFA-- algae filter

Wally Billingham (wally_at_wallybillingham.com)
Wed, 21 Aug 2002 19:30:38 -0400

If you could get my Grass Pickerels to eat nonliving things that would be
great. On the other hand watching them stalk, lunge, turn, then swallow a
fish half their size is also very cool :-)

Wally
----- Original Message -----
From: David Strickler <david.strickler_at_ncmail.net>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- algae filter

> Wally and others,
>
> I have employed the same general methods as Wally described with great
success
> with crappies (black and white), largemouth bass, and longnose gar. I
have had
> marginal success with redfin pickerel, and am about to try to switch chain
> pickerels over to non-live food.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for getting any of the Esox to take any
non-live
> food? Any past successes would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> David
>
> Wally Billingham wrote:
>
> > Hi Robert,
> > The trick I have used with the Crappies is the same I have used with
other
> > fish like darters. I also am keeping white crappies I do not think it
would
> > make a difference however. The first thing to do is get them when they
are
> > small. If they are more than a year or so old I do not think it will
work as
> > well. Then you start off by feeding live foods. Get them real used to
you
> > coming up and feeding them. When they begin to think of you as the
dinner
> > bell you are in. Then what you do is do not feed them for several days,
> > during which time you also do not come near the tank. When you come by
the
> > next time drop some freeze dried krill into the outflow of a
powerfilter.
> > This makes the crill move around and even sink in the water. At first
your
> > crappies may not eat it. I then repeat the process again the next day,
and
> > the next until they taste it. If by day 4 they have not eaten it I will
> > throw in a few feeders and then try again. The idea is not to let them
> > starve but rather make them hungy enough to try the krill. Once they
begin
> > to eat the krill I make them eat only that for a few days and then toss
in a
> > few feeders a few times a week. At this time you can also try some
cichlid
> > pellets. This is where I am with them now.
> >
> > I have used this trick many times over the last few years. It also helps
if
> > you have fish in the tank that are eating the krill, as I think the fish
> > learn from one another. For instance I have several Darters that tear up
> > flake food. It now only takes a few days to get new darters to eat the
flake
> > when they can learn from others.
> >
> > Wally
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Robert Carillio <darterman_at_cboss.com>
> > To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 12:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: NANFA-- algae filter
> >
> > > > are also starting to eat cichlid pellets, and freeze dried plankton.
> > >
> > >
> > > Wally.. this is amazing!!! I have never ever been able to get Crappies
to
> > > acccept anything other than live food! This is why I stopped raising
> > them.
> > > The tank was really getting messy with minnow scales flying
everywhere.
> > The
> > > tank started to resemble one of those little plastic bubble things
with
> > a
> > > snowman in it filled with water and glitter, and when you shake it
up, it
> > > looks like it's snowing! Are you sure they are actually eating the
food
> > > and not spitting it out???.. Please share with us what you did to get
them
> > > to acccept this food!
> > >
> > > Also, the descriptions of tanks sound really attractive! It's nice
to
> > see
> > > people go out of their way to make the habitat in the aquarium reflect
> > those
> > > habitats in which the fishes are native to. This is attractive in
itself
> > > and really pulls the whole display together. As soon as you get the
> > photos,
> > > please post them so we can see! I think you also have me wanting to
be on
> > > the look out for beaver wood! :-)
> > >
> > > Rob C.
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