Re: NANFA-- pellets and sunfish

B.G. Granier (bgkajun_at_worldnet.att.net)
Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:16:07 -0600

Thanks George!

With the prices as haigh as they are now on commercialy produced foods, I'm
sure to try your recipe!

BG Granier
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From: <Arndtg_at_aol.com>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- pellets and sunfish

> there is a lot of talk on feeding dry pellets to sunfish.
>
> I make my own food. it costs less but NOT cheap. I use haddock or cod
> filets, ground up in a blender. I use salmon, sardines, shrimp, etc.
may
> use some lean white turkey slices. may add some frozen peas, spinach or
> collards cooked and then I take some commercial fish food like koi pellets
> and grind them up dry. I add liquid baby vitamines. whatever I think is
> good. then I mix up the liquid in a large pot. add in the powdered koi
food
> to dry out the mixture a bit. then I take a box of 4 packages of Knox
> gelatine and maybe 3 ounces of water and put it into a covered microwave
bowl
> and heat to dissolve for 2 minutes. when clear and dissolved, I pour it
> fast into the bowl of food and use the mix master. the last batch I used
3
> boxes of gelatine. about a dollar a box. then I pour it out in glass
pyrex
> trays and allow to set in the refrigerator over night. then when good and
> firm. I cut it into blocks and wrap in plastic paper and freeze. then I
use
> one block at a time. my blocks may be 2 in by 3 in by 1/2 in thick. it
last
> about 2 days. all my fish love it. most of the fish and shrimp are NOT
> cooked but are raw. sometimes I used canned fish. this is obviously
cooked
> in the can. this is OK too. I always make it different every time.
never
> use a recipe. ooh yes. I always add some spirulina powder. makes the
food
> green.
>
> if you dont have the koi food to grind up dry. then try oatmeal or
> wheatgerm. probably could use ground up powdered dry dog food or
something
> like that. I really don't know. most of my food is the fish and shrimp.
I
> want to try adding some beef heart some day.
>
> if I use less gelatine the final product is softer and the smaller fish
can
> easily eat it. if I use more gelatine then it becomes more firm and the
> larger fish can still eat it, but the small fry may have more of a time of
> it. with small fry I have been making it soft. some people cook the
fish,
> meat. I use it raw because I don't know of any wild fish that cook their
> food first. hehe.
>
> i obtained some small fry sunfish. they doubled their mass or weight in
one
> week with this food. I am surprised how efficiently the sunfish eat this.
> they take large pieces larger than my guess of their mouth and suck it in.
> then in 20 to 30 seconds they take in more again and again. they are very
> efficient eaters. my crayfish wait for the food. they argue with each
other
> to get the bits that fall to the bottom.
>
> george arndt
> harvard, mass
>
> I also feed some cocktail shrimps whole after thawing out. some fish love
> them. then I have live red worms and white worms going. and some
crayfish.
> well when the crayfish molt. lookout. some soft crayfish get eatten. I
am
> working on this one. the crayfish are new for me.
>
> george arndt
> harvard, mass
>
>
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