Re: NANFA-- Oops!

Bruce Stallsmith (
Mon, 03 Dec 2001 11:32:56 -0500

I was looking closely at one of my surviving snubnoses from that trip. He
(I'm certain!) truly has a yellow band at the base of the first dorsal fin,
and only one caudal spot (rather than a bifurcated, "two-spot" look). So
he's convincingly a Tennessee snubnose, Eth. simoterum, in my humble
opinion. But two others I have, both deceased, I'm convinced are black, Eth.
duryi. This isn't a real surprise since we collected them in a stream that's
Darter Central for diversity.

--Bruce Stallsmith
Huntsville, AL, US of A

>From: Roselawn Museum <>
>Subject: Re: NANFA-- Oops!
>Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 09:59:39 -0500
>Hi Prez
>Yeah, I was confused too, at first. I got help on the ID from Dave Neely.
>I'll let y'all slug it out. (-:
>Steven A. Ellis
>Kennesaw, GA
>(tricked by fish many times)
>At 04:40 PM 11/30/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >I think you're on the right track photographically, your box works pretty
> >well. I still think that this particular fish is Eth. duryi, the black
> >darter, rather than the Tennessee snubnose, simoterum. From what I can
> >it has a black base to the spiny (first) dorsal fin, typical of duryi,
> >the simoterum should have a yellow base. Any other votes? J.R.? Dave N?
> >Casper?
> >
> >--Bruce Stallsmith
> >Huntsville, AL, US of A

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