RE: NANFA-- Plants, substrate, and Canidate sand darter.

m c (midgatutordigests_at_yahoo.com)
Sat, 7 Dec 2002 13:56:34 -0800 (PST)

What interested me in the sand darter was the pic of
it buried in sand. Any other fish do this?

Is the western sand darter any better?

on the plants, I think I have some sort of bacopa and
moneywort availible in the farm pond at my Uncle's.

I've just never set up a planted native tank before.
usually I just use ground clay kitty litter, peat, and
playsand in layers topdressed with peagravel.

But if I add a "beach" area for a fish with a cool
"bury everything but my head" behavior, how do i work
that in?

--- "Crail, Todd" <tcrail_at_northshores.com> wrote:
> A quick scan of the Peterson field guide offers some
> local canidates for the people of your court, your
> Honor. And I'd like to point out at this point in
> proceedings that staying local as possible will, in
> this servant of the court's opinion and experience
> serve the consituents in a far more appealing
> manner. It appears the constiuents are of low SES
> and "The Maumee River, Ohio" might as well be as far
> off as "The Rio Negro, Brazil", so nothing has been
> achieved in local enlightenment, which may be the
> most powerful element of your lesson, as nothing is
> tied to opinion or belief. It's just right there in
> the backyard (experience)... And it's just plain
> cool. :)
>
> With that said, your Honor... (and thank you Steven
> for compiling your list so I didn't have to hunt all
> over the internet :)
>
http://www.nanfa.org/NANFAregions/ga/ga_fw_fishes.htm
>
> I've omit any that are on the GA state lists.
>
> Swamp Darter- (Etheostoma fusiforme)
> Christmas Darter - (Etheostoma hopkinsi)
> *Definately* have to check this one out.
> Tessellated Darter (Etheostoma olmstedi)
> Sawcheek Darter - (Etheostoma serrifer)
> Blackbanded Darter (Percina nigrofasciata) May
> appear to have drab color for darters, but I will
> note that the Blackside Darter (P. maculata) is a
> personal favorite and has similar color and paterns.
>
> I will allow for the local experts to provide
> character witness, if it so pleases the Court.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Crail, Todd
> Sent: Sat 12/7/2002 2:12 PM
> To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> Cc:
> Subject: RE: NANFA-- Plants, substrate, and
> Canidate sand darter.
>
>
>
> I think it would be wise to look elsewhere for a
> less troubled canidate, your Honor. The canidate in
> question has been hammered on by habitat loss and
> degredation in nearly all it's range, is found on
> most State's Lists, and for the most part, you'd
> need to approach a real governing body to get the
> appropriate permits to have one in your possession,
> dead or alive.
>
>
>
> If you can keep the fish at 75 degrees or less....
> Have we discussed the potential canidates Rainbow
> (E. caeruleum) or Orangethroat (E.spectabile)
> darters? They're a more northern species, and do
> require more oxygenated and cooler water. If this
> can be achieved, I know of no other piscean
> combination of these oranges and blues (quite
> literally the Syracuse U. school colors) and the
> canidates have dealt with humanity's activity much
> more gracefully. If these temperatures are not an
> option, Sir, perhaps some of our Southern
> contingency could suggest Southern pool or swamp
> dwelling cousins?
>
>
>
> When it warms up, I'll have piles of anacharis
> available for your court and constituents. However,
> in these temps, it will be a waste of shipping
> money.
>
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