1. Per our discussion in chambers (i.e. offlist), it is much
better to start off slow and gain experience with native fish
and for that matter, fish of any persuasion. Patience is a key
requirement of this hobby.
2. With the admitted lack of extensive fish husbandry skills,
is the court not willing to start off with common, easily
available species and making the necessary, multiple mistakes
resulting in several fish mortalities before progressing to
the harder, challenging fish species?
3. Enthusiasism is good. Requests for free fish are good.
However, is there an awareness that the people who are asked for
fish are making a serious effort to go out, collect,
bring back fish, keep them alive, and ship them out? There is
a lot of time, energy, gas, supplies and money being spent by
4. In exchange for fish, is the court willing to provide written
documentation (on paper), photographs of said school projects?
5. Is the court willing to cover the out-of-pocket expenses
incurred while shipping fish, plants, etc.?
--- "Crail, Todd" <tcrail_at_northshores.com> wrote:
> I think it would be wise to look elsewhere for a less troubled
> canidate, your Honor. The canidate in question has been hammered on
> by habitat loss and degredation in nearly all it's range, is found on
> most State's Lists, and for the most part, you'd need to approach a
> real governing body to get the appropriate permits to have one in
> your possession, dead or alive.
> If you can keep the fish at 75 degrees or less.... Have we discussed
> the potential canidates Rainbow (E. caeruleum) or Orangethroat
> (E.spectabile) darters? They're a more northern species, and do
> require more oxygenated and cooler water. If this can be achieved, I
> know of no other piscean combination of these oranges and blues
> (quite literally the Syracuse U. school colors) and the canidates
> have dealt with humanity's activity much more gracefully. If these
> temperatures are not an option, Sir, perhaps some of our Southern
> contingency could suggest Southern pool or swamp dwelling cousins?
> When it warms up, I'll have piles of anacharis available for your
> court and constituents. However, in these temps, it will be a waste
> of shipping money.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: m c
> So, to aid in the substrate discussion, lets skip
> ahead to the next canidate:
> Ammocrypta pellucida:eastern sand darter.
> I think we all know the format by now.
> Ammocrypta pellucida:eastern sand darter
> [demime 0.99d.1 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef
> which had a name of winmail.dat]
> /"Unless stated otherwise, comments made on this list do not
> / reflect the beliefs or goals of the North American Native Fishes
> / Association"
> / This is the discussion list of the North American Native Fishes
> / nanfa_at_aquaria.net. To subscribe, unsubscribe, or get help, send the
> / subscribe, unsubscribe, or help in the body (not subject) of an
> email to
> / nanfa-request_at_aquaria.net. For a digest version, send the command
> / nanfa-digest-request_at_aquaria.net instead.
> / For more information about NANFA, visit our web page,
-- Sajjad Lateef sajjad_at_acm.org /----------------------------------------------------------------------------- /"Unless stated otherwise, comments made on this list do not necessarily / reflect the beliefs or goals of the North American Native Fishes / Association" / This is the discussion list of the North American Native Fishes Association / nanfa_at_aquaria.net. To subscribe, unsubscribe, or get help, send the word / subscribe, unsubscribe, or help in the body (not subject) of an email to / nanfa-request_at_aquaria.net. For a digest version, send the command to / nanfa-digest-request_at_aquaria.net instead. / For more information about NANFA, visit our web page, http://www.nanfa.org