Re: NANFA-- South Carolina Sailfins

William Allen jr. (billandbonnie_at_peoplepc.com)
Sat, 9 Feb 2002 11:34:05 -0600

OK, you're on the short list - I started promising some to folks about the
time they "disappeared". We're having a mild winter (assuming it's over),
maybe it'll be a good year for them.

i have no idea how they got here, they must have been introduced. Another
ALA member said he saw some in 1989, I first found them about 3-4 years ago.
Neil Douglas was unaware of any this far north, also.

"Instead of giving money to found colleges to promote
learning, why don't they pass a constitutional amendment
prohibiting anybody from learning anything? If it works as
good as the Prohibition one did, why, in five years we would
have the smartest race of people on earth." -- American
humorist Will Rogers (1879-1935)

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Bock <bockhouse_at_earthlink.net>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- South Carolina Sailfins

> Hey, Bill--If any of those huge gorgeous males come back, can you send me
> one/some? I'd love to get my hands on some breeders from that population.
> My thinking is you've got a population with an adaptation to low hardness.
> (I don't think you'll find very many populations that wouldn't die under
> those conditions.)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Allen jr." <billandbonnie_at_peoplepc.com>
> To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: NANFA-- South Carolina Sailfins
>
>
> > I've mentioned several times on this board that I found them here in
> > shreveport LA, 200 miles from the coast, in rainwater-fed drainage
ditches
> > with a pH of about 7.0 and TDS < 100 PPM.
> >
> > My biggest colony has gone bye-bye - don't know what happened - but I've
> > still found a few of them a few miles from the original location, but
> > haven't found any huge gorgeous males as were at the first location.....
> >
> > Bill Allen
> >
> > "Instead of giving money to found colleges to promote
> > learning, why don't they pass a constitutional amendment
> > prohibiting anybody from learning anything? If it works as
> > good as the Prohibition one did, why, in five years we would
> > have the smartest race of people on earth." -- American
> > humorist Will Rogers (1879-1935)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Doug Dame <dameda_at_shands.ufl.edu>
> > To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 6:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: NANFA-- South Carolina Sailfins
> >
> >
> >
> > Sailfin Bob wrote:
> >
> > >> As the Scharpfmeister mention, I'm really into sailfin mollies.
> > >> Any of you know of any good brackish water locals for collecting
> > >> them? Like maybe a salt marsh inside a State Park?
> > >>
> > >> Would anyone know how Soutch Carolina sailfins might compare
> > >> in color and size to the Florida variety? Would it be worth an
eight
> > > > hour drive to get some to cross with my domestic stock?
> >
> > I know mollies thrive in brackish water, but hereabouts in north central
> > Florida I also routinely catch them in water with essentially zero salt
> > content. For example, two week ago I got a bunch just off Orange Lake,
> which
> > is perhaps 50 miles as the crow flies from the Gulf and 70 miles from
the
> > Atlantic (right by Interstate-75, between Gainesville and Ocala.) And
> > they're even as common as Gambusia in some of the little streams that
run
> > right though downtown Gainesville (even in places where the natural
stream
> > has been made into a concrete chute). They're in the Sante Fe River.
> They're
> > in the pristine Itchnetucknee River, 3 miles from the headspring.
They're
> > .... well, everywhere ( I want to be !)
> >
> > I wasn't sure where you are ... were you talking about an 8-hr drive
from
> > S.C. to Florida, or vice versa ?
> >
> > Doug Dame
> > Interlachen FL
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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