RE: NANFA-- texas fish invasion

Chip Rinehart (crin_at_glassmaster.com)
Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:00:39 -0500

We have caught juv Gafftopsail catfish in the Edisto River so that could be
a possibility. I can't say that adults were there as well but we were just
checking around a boat ramp for a few minutes and then decided to move on.

Chip in SC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Crail [SMTP:farmertodd_at_buckeye-express.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:32 AM
> To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> Subject: Re: NANFA-- texas fish invasion
>
> Oh and sorry for the incomplete thought....
>
> If this is the species, he may have heard someone talk about them coming
> into estaurine waters or possibly making a conversion into freshwater on a
> system like Lakes Marion and Moultrie in South Carolina (as an example...
> I
> think redfish have successfully colonized now?)... And you know how people
> get when anything is "different" :)
>
> I always try and remember that I once long ago thought hogsuckers that
> we'd
> caught on rod and reel while fishing for channel catfish were some type of
> mutant fish that didn't belong... :)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Crail" <farmertodd_at_buckeye-express.com>
> To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:22 AM
> Subject: Re: NANFA-- texas fish invasion
>
>
> > Maybe this is what he was describing? It was the first thing that came
> to
> > mind when I originally read the description, just hadn't had time till
> now
> > to track this down. It's marine, but it sounds exactly like what you're
> > describing:
> >
> >
> http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/expltx/eft/gulf/cspecies/gafftopsailcatfish.ht
> m
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Bongiovanni" <bongi_at_cox-internet.com>
> > To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: NANFA-- texas fish invasion
> >
> >
> > > Moon,
> > >
> > > Checked with one of our local fish biologists on the issue.
> Apparently
> > > they've heard the question before. He states " There is no such thing
> > > as a high-fin-blue catfish, government blue catfish,
> > > high fin government blue catfish etc. There is however a blue catfish
> > > (Ictalurus furcatus). Blue catfish do get quite large (the world
> record
> > is
> > > well over 100 lbs) but they are good to eat. They also have a
> prominent
> > > hump (particularly as they get larger) and are picivorus like a
> flathead.
> > > Frequently you will hear people refer to male channel catfish as
> highfin
> > or
> > > government blues, particularly in the spring when their heads are
> enlarged
> > > (the fishes). These folks will argue for hours that channel catfish
> have
> > > small heads and that these are something different. The only other NA
> > > catfish I know of with a forked tail is the white catfish (Ameirus
> catus)
> > > but these are only in the drainages east of the Mississippi, and are
> > smaller
> > > than channel cats."
> > >
> > > Hope that helps.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > Moontanman_at_aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > >Has anyone heard of a fish known as a hi-fin blue cat that is coming
> up
> > into
> > > >southern Texas and crowding out the native catfish? It is supposed to
> get
> > to
> > > >be about 30 to 35 pounds and isn't very good to eat. it looks like a
> blue
> > cat
> > > >with a deeply forked tail and humped back.
> > > >
> > > >Moon
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