Re: NANFA-- Bully stonecats?

matt ashton (ashtonmj2003-in-yahoo.com)
Wed, 9 Jun 2004 18:23:34 -0700 (PDT)

I have a millenium 2000 with the oxygen injector about halfway on. I have the largest or second largest Optima air pump connected to a sponge filter for some extra aeration. I connected this-in-the time of the fish arriving...so perhaps thats where something was brought in it sat dry for a long time. Ive honestly never been on to test many parameters, much of it out of laziness...but this is the worst die off ive ever had in my fish keeping expeirence. I had a grass pike for a month too that was fine and the plants were thriving. I did feed the grass pike fatheads raised in our bioassy lab, but those water parameters are strictly watched, but it doesnt say some parasite could not have entered that way. Either way I have half or less of what I had after the trip which leaves one boring tank. In a seperate email to Dan-in-Newport Aq after he told me that they had found nematodes on his fish from the Grand...that its affected all my fish except with stonecats, which have diffe
rent
skin/scale than the shiners and darters...could this be something not allowing the nematode to attach by getting under the scale and then affecting the skin if this is the cause? I am far away from the bullying stone cats theory now...I did save and preserve my fish that have died in methanol (which keeps color far better than ethanol) so im sure whatever was killing them is still there.

Todd Crail <farmertodd-in-buckeye-express.com> wrote:I would figure out what is wrong first. I don't think it's just a case of
the violent catfish and the necrotic bacteria. Bacterial infestations like
that usually don't occur and go hog wild without something being a miss. In
fact I've seen on many occassions where this same stuff was happening, moved
the animal to a different, thriving tank and the disease goes away, the
tissue heals. I would look-in-the O2 (you are using that air pump right?)
and wether you've grounded the tank or not. These are two common issues.
Water params might be all goofed up. I dunno. I would investigate before I
got anyone else involved though.

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Subject: Re: NANFA-- Bully stonecats?

> I lost one greenside and the other has now started to show the same
symptoms of the whiteish pink tail and caudal fin erosion.-in-this rate ill
have nothing in a week. I dont have any other tanks so removing and treating
isnt an immediate option. Looks like I need to go collecting again in about
a week.
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