Isn4t it weird and disgusting to hear about those stories? Iamre this
similarly happens everywhere in the world. Free after the famous indian
word: as long as people think the can live on money they won4t change a
> If you want to promote conservation- defend private property and fight the
> death tax and eminent domain abuse by local governments!
The tax is only a part of the economic system. And this is ill around the
world. Money, money, money, profit, more profit, maximum profit.
Shareholder, multinational companies, corruption -ahum, sorry- lobbyism,
political ideology vs. rational mind, todays wealth vs. future perspectives.
Greeting s from late Roman Empire: Most of the people are real dumm, the
intelligent minority has sold their potential for money voluntarily, only a
small number of people keeps independent and is willing to behave the other
way. This is the thorn in the eyes of the ruling. BTW who is that? Any idea
where the famous wealth of families such as the Fuggers (Augsburg, germany),
the Medici, the former Indian Maharadjas, the chinese emperors has gone to?
How many people in the world have the money and power to buy literally
everything? Bill gates? The Aldi brothers? Forget it. There are
families/groups around which have a richness far beyond Billiboy etc. Look
at Brzil e.g. - five fa,ilies own and rule the country. And this is one of
the richest countries in the world (not quite for their people but from its
>> And for captive breeding projects: Where are they? And if present, who is
>> behind them? The public? Authorities? Make me laugh!
> It's amazing what private breeders can do with herps and fish with limited
> resources. A basement full of sweaterbox cages or kiddie
> pools can even rival a 20 million dollar fish hatchery or herp breeding
> facility. Government always inflates the cost of doing
> anything. Now I know some caution is warrented but if you go too far in
> direction then the price tag becomes astronomical and
> you're just not going to get the funding to do everything that needs to be
Thanks for the comparison. I totally agree with you. If good breeders were
given just a tiny part of the money spent for big hatchery projects and
their burocracy, we would have multiple success in numbers and quality. Most
of the hatcheries and breeding stations (if not all) work on the basis of
commercial understanding i.e. "production". And they are too scientific. You
cannot transfer natural biology one-to-one to captivity. It is different and
for this one needs a certain "feeling in his fingers" for the proper
conditions. If a well educated biologist would have to set the standards for
captive rearing, there won4t be any breeders left! Everything is forced to
be put in systems and standards which is wrong if it is about living
animals. E.g. the african lampeyes: the live in very soft, acid water but in
aquarium they do best in hard, alcaline water and reproduce like rabbits.
Why? Nobody knows but it works.
>> Final example: The breeding station for Komodo Dragons wanted to sell
>> offspring to Germany. It was rejected by our
>> authorities. But the offspring by that is in danger of being fed to the
>> adults as they where overstock.
> Steffan- your continental perspective should be a wakeup call to American
> hobbyists of what the future may hold if we don't start
> standing up against this kind of nonsense. It goes on here too to some
> I couldn't really understand it until I started
> reading Ayn Rand. There are people out there willing to see the destruction
> value rather than give up a little control.
To me there is only one perspective open for the future: worldwide
networking. The so-called environmentalists are doing this ever since. They
are way ahead and will never give in until they reached their goal.
Similar the managements on federal or state level everywhere in the world. I
still believe they want to do a proper work and there are many people really
caring for nature and its preservation but on the other side it is their job
and nobody wants to lose his/her job. That is what starts a special dynamic
within organizations to drag work and responsibility more and more. And of
course the right understanding of it: WE are the specialists, it is OUR job
to preserve nature. And the higher one gets in the system the more he/she is
involved making career rather than improving the job. No problem with this
in public economy - but it is wrong in political administrations! A serious
problem around the world as economy has managed to have political work being
messured by economic efficiency. Not by political efficiency. Compare the
privatization of public services in Germany/Europe such as mail service,
telecommunication, energy supply, railways: to reduce taxes (as this tasks
were subventioned from taxes) these were transferred into companies for
profit. The taxes have not been reduced at all but the prices for the
services have raised severely. But more they have lost their character to
serve ALL PEOPLE and are off political responsibility. What if ever nature
management would be transferred into profit centers? Don4t even think about
it, you4d get mad.
>> Congratulations burocrazy!
> You got that right!
THEY got us if we are not aware. :-(
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