Re: NANFA-- Above ground pond

Tom Watson (onefish2fish_at_comcast.net)
Thu, 25 Mar 2004 13:13:26 -0800

If you mean those "Cherry Tone" timbers, I will warn you, they will rot
where they come into contact with the ground. I built a raised bed garden
using them and they begin to rot after two or three years.

Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Irate Mormon" <archimedes_at_bayspringstel.net>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- Above ground pond

> Quoting Todd Crail <farmertodd_at_buckeye-express.com>:
>
>
> > If it were me... I'd use all 4x4's and lagbolt everything together.
Then
> > you can take it down in the winter and move it inside ;)
>
> My thinking on the use of landscape timbers is this:
>
> 1) They cost only 2 bucks each, vs. $6 for 4x4's
> 2) They're rated for ground contact
> 3) Stacked on their flat sides, they provide 5 inches of thickness (in the
> horizontal dimension, I mean) vs. 3.5 inches for 4x4's. Hence they are
stronger.
> 4) A single piece of rebar going through the entire height of the stack,
and
> well into the ground, should be much stronger than lag bolts which tie one
> timber to its neighbor, at least for the construction method I have in
mind.
>
> I don't really have to worry about a hard freeze during winter (or any
kind of
> freeze for that matter), and at any rate the dimensions I have planned (8'
by
> 24') would not readily fit inside my house :-) I could really make it as
high
> as I want - is there any benefit from more than 2 feet? I would lose
> surface/volume ratio by increasing the depth.
>
> I have seen an indoor pond made like this - it was maybe 4' deep and had a
> natural-looking (concrete and stone) backdrop which reached to the
ceiling, and
> served as a kind of waterfall. It had plants and stuff on it - it was
gorgeous.
> Kind of an open-air paludarium. Don't give me ideas Todd, my wife
already
> complains about the amount of space my 110 takes up!
>
>
> --Irate
>
> "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; if it dies there, no
constitution,
> no law, no court can save it."

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