NANFA-- RE: Nothing to do with NANFA or fishies...Sorry about that

Bob Sinclair (
Fri, 23 May 2003 15:07:00 -0700

Tom, Steffen and Klaus:

Tom: Now just one minute, there! We live in Santa Barbara, not downtown, but in
a rather built up residential area. The lovely Anne drives a Honda CRV and
loves it. At age 71 and climbing, it's easy to enter through it's large doors,
a bunch of stuff when needed, and she likes the extra visibility sitting higher than
in a standard automobile. I doubt if it will EVER go off the road, and she
didn't have off-roading in mind when she picked it from all that's available in the

And Steffan: Regarding Ferraris and impotence, my '89 328GTS, bought in '90 with
just under 5,000 miles on the odometer, hasn't done a damned things for my sex
damn it!

And Klaus: "Overgripping the steering wheel" is a common mistake. Every high
performance driving school teaches that one should grip the wheel...lightly...with
both hands, in approximately the 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock position, being prepared
to take appropriate steering actions when required. Gripping the wheel tightly, no
matter the circumstances involved, more or less guarantees a slower response time.

Like you, I have detected a seemingly linear inverse relationship between drivers of
SUVs and driving abilities. I could go on at length about this one...but won't,
since I
assume you are well aware of most of the gory details. In the wrong hands, i.e., in
hands of anyone who doesn't have a clue regarding vehicle dynamics, especially
dynamics at relatively higher speeds, ALL vehicles can be...and ARE...dangerous.


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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 13:48:21 -0400
From: "Thomas Vetre" <>
Subject: RE: NANFA-- exotic dump

Sorry if I offend anyone, but the CAR OF CHOICE for idiots in America is the
SUV. Now, I can understand owning a SUV if you live in a rural area or
spend some time off-roading and you need that kind of car. I just don't get
owning a SUV if you live in the middle of a city/big town and never head off


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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 20:30:17 +0200
From: "Steffen Hellner" <>
Subject: Re: NANFA-- exotic dump

Right! And SUV are becoming favorite cars over here in Germany. Well, we
have a wide country, hardly any paved roads, and long distances to make.
More or less everybody is a forest owner or hunter, farmer or has to move
heavy trailers. So to say if one looks at the statistics of new car registrations.
And the SUV are nearly as good for impotence as a Porsche or Ferrari.
Many men are proving that.

Idiots around the world - join in one car. It's big enough ;-)


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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:42:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Al G Eaton <>
Subject: RE: NANFA-- exotic dump

The last time I made the trip from Cincinnati to Chiccago was in January and though
the temperature
was about 20 F there was a light mist falling north of Lafayette. It was one of
those knucklebusting
times where your blood drains out of your hands from overgripping the steering wheel
because you
knew one mistake and you were off the road or into another car.

Because of all the accidents traffic slowed to a crawl. I saw suv after suv
accident, many of them had
rolled thir vehicles, lots of those drivers were oblivious to what the road
conditions were like and
obviously didnt understand much about the relationship between the center of gravity
and rolling your
vehicle. I also saw a few jackknifed semis, but almost no pickups or regular cars. I
made it to Chicago
about two hours later and picked my chiller aquarium and then drove back home that
night....what a
long day that was, and it made a believer of me that in the wrong hands, suvs are

West Columbia, SC

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