Re: NANFA-- KY collecting (long)

Roselawn Museum (
Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:33:32 -0400

Hi Martin

I'm not sure what normal would be, but several of us have had the same
conversation almost every time we collect where the ranges of the two fish
overlap. Sometimes the differences are subtle, but in this batch the spots
on the F. olivaceous are more pronounced (particularly in the fins) with
the black lateral line more uneven. The F. notatus from the same site are
evenly striped with no spots. I don't know how others deal with it, but for
me, as the fish grow larger the F. olivaceous seems to have a flatter head.

The real dilemma for me is the one I got from Red River that I can't ID. It
is similar in marking to the F. catenatus, but it has a rounded head and
spends most of its time on the bottom. The F. catenatus are already getting
relatively tame, but this other one still likes to hide. What other
topminnows are in that range? I've definitely ruled out F. stellifer.

Steven A. Ellis
Kennesaw, GA

At 04:03 PM 10/24/01 -0500, you wrote:
>On 24 Oct 2001, at 12:17, Roselawn Museum wrote:
>> it turned out. The fish were in abundance, with at least 23 species
>> recorded. (Geoff, feel free to chime in if I forget any!) Here's the list:
>> Black spotted topminnow
>> Black striped topminnow
>Notatus and olivaceous from the same site? Is that normal?
>Jackson, MS
>I remember how my great-uncle Jerry would sit on the porch
>and whittle all day long. Once he whittled me a toy boat out
>of a larger toy boat I had. It was almost as good as the first
>one, except now it had bumpy whittle marks all over it. And
>no paint, because he had whittled off the paint.

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