Re: NANFA-- swimming in troubled waters

Tony (
Sat, 16 Sep 2000 23:24:00 +0700

1] What is mountain skillet fish?
2] Maybe sometimes in the future NANFA members in southern region mount an
"expedition" to somewhere in north Mexico not too far from south Texas and around
south Texas area?
3] [not about Mexico] In the book Freshwater fishes of Virginia it is said
that in one study saffron shiner also spawn in late July at water temperature of
30 degree celcius. I wonder about this since so far from what I read saffron is
from Blue Ridge area that is very high and the streams and rivers in the area is
supposed to be cold all year round. Is this an error or is the saffron also found
in other areas that has warmer water and adapt to warmer conditions? Is the New
river in NC and Virginia warmer than other Blue Ridge rivers?

Tony wrote:

> In a message dated 9/14/00 8:38:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> writes:
> << I wonder has anyone been to Mexico collecting or
> trading non-cichlid and non-livebearer Mexican native fishes at all? In
> Mexico
> there are at least many beautiful Cyprinella shiners that should do fine and
> not
> hard to breed... >>
> Yeah, I think that it would be interesting to hear about more Mexican fishes.
> A lot of North American natives is focused almost exclusively on U.S. fishes;
> understandably so since most members are from that country and that is a
> country which is associated more with North America than Mexico is. People
> tend to associate Mexico more with tropical fishes and while it's true that
> they have more typically tropical fauna such as cichlids and tetras, they
> also have sunfishes and minnows which are more characteristically temperate
> fishes. Mexico I would consider to be more of an "overlap zone" where both
> coincide, along with the most extreme southern parts of the U.S. where the
> Rio Grande cichlid and the Mexican tetra occur (admittedly both are in a
> small limited portion of the country). Plus they have some unusual fishes
> which are not found in the U.S., such as native swamp eels (unlike Florida,
> which has exotic Asian ones) mountain skilletfish, and others.

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