Re: NANFA-- Bluenose shiner news

Irate Mormon (archimed_at_netdoor.com)
Tue, 9 Sep 2003 22:05:35 -0500

I think that in certain circumstances it is entirely appropriate to declare a moratorium, even if we can't actually enforce it. At the very
least we can strongly discourage irresponsible collecting. And that applies to the pro's, too :-)

On 9 Sep 2003 at 22:14, Todd Crail wrote:

> NANFA doesn't exist to declare moratoriums. There's plenty of
> Federal, State and Private agencies that _do_ exactly that... One
> which their listings of imperiled organisms bluntly states those
> listed organisms are exactly that... imperiled. One that still seemed
> to be in shades of gray and rationalized in your rebuttal. Perhaps
> it's a shade of blue now?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Irate Mormon" <archimed_at_netdoor.com>
> To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:03 AM
> Subject: NANFA-- Bluenose shiner news
>
>
> > I had a rather disturbing conversation with one of my friends at the
> Mississippi Museum of Natural Science yesterday. It seems that
> > somebody has been plundering welaka for the "Pet Trade". Mike
> > suspects
> that a "German aquarist" is responsible, but asked me to
> > see if I could find out anything. According to him, sites that have
> > been
> productive for the last 15 years are now void of welaka. I am
> > wondering if any of my southern brethren have heard of such a
> > person? Not
> that I think that a foreign aquarist is necessarily involved,
> > but this is very upsetting in any case. As Chris knows, I have been
> kicking around the idea of writing an article on how the range of >
> this fish has changed over the years. Due to intense time pressure I
> haven't really made any headway on this, but the little > information
> I have gathered is alarming. Some of you may gather from my
> "point-counterpoint" dialog with Gene Helfman (I think it's > in this
> issue of A/C, unless Chris decided it was too controversial) that I am
> gung-ho about collecting "special concern" species > which do not
> enjoy legal protection. This is not the case at all, as I hope I
> communicated in my rebuttal. P. welaka is one of those > fish which
> is not protected in MS, but is listed as "special concern". I am
> almost to the point of asking NANFA to declare an official >
> moratorium on collecting this fish, but I need to get my facts in
> order first. If there is a reckless individual out there, and anybody
> > has any idea who it might be, PLEASE help me in identifying him. > >
> Prost, > > Martin
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Prost,

Martin

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