My point of view at "not (that) modern" societies is from my experiences in
Africa and South America. Especially in Africa I experienced that mentioned
tolerance towards people from other cultures, with different ways of life
and all that stuff. This is not from socio-ethymological research based on
ill theories of even more ill theoretic thinkers. It4s just my personal
"Philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways. The point
however is to change it".
> Von: Jeffrey Fullerton <tcmajorr_at_westol.com>
> Antworten an: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> Datum: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:10:50 -0400
> An: "nanfa_at_aquaria.net" <nanfa at aquaria.net>
> Betreff: Re: NANFA-- Bluenose shiner news
>> We have already
>> passed Huxleys "Brave New World" by far. And people themselves are the Big
> You have that right Steffan. The Tyranny of Majority Rule.
> Though I think you've got part of it reversed- in comparing collectivism
> and individualism- collectivism is the more primitive, regressive
> Technology aside, a big part of social control has always been guilt and
> so remains. Whatever you want to prohibit- just tie it to guilt- like
> the socialist ideologue Elsworth Toohey in Ayn Rand's "Fountainhead"
> said about not letting people be happy- or Gregory Benford's essay on
> Negative Utopias- "social regulation thru guilt".
> Be it smoking, drinking, gambling, sex, drugs & rock & roll you'll hear
> endless sermons on why it's bad and some folks will get hot under the
> collar if you come out in opposition to the inevitable proposal to
> regulate or prohibit the activity in question and you'll get a really
> serious guilt trip. Like how many times have you heard that fishkeeping
> is not a right?
> In the short run, and in bad times when people tend to regress to the
> primitive egalitarian state- techology can be abused to sure up the
> system and subordinate the individual to the so called 'collective
> will'- which in many cases is nothing more than the consensus of an
> elite group or special interests. But in the long run, technological
> progress tends to empower the individual as well as improve the overall
> human condition.
> I'd say more but I'm already too far off topic.
> "For my own part I wish the Bald Eagle had not been chosen the
> Representative of our Country. He is a Bird of bad moral Character. He
> does not get his Living honestly. You may have seen him perched on some
> dead Tree near the River, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he
> watches the Labour of the Fishing Hawk; and when that diligent Bird has
> at length taken a Fish, and is bearing it to his Nest for the Support of
> his Mate and young Ones, the Bald Eagle pursues him and takes it from
> Benjamin Franklin
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