Re: NANFA-- Bluenose Shiners & Pond Update- Recovery from

B.G. Granier (bgkajun_at_worldnet.att.net)
Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:47:08 -0500

Chip,

Hell, I can't even get them to breed their own species! Maybe they are a
"cross" to begin with...........: - ).

BG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chip Rinehart" <crin_at_glassmaster.com>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: NANFA-- Bluenose Shiners & Pond Update- Recovery from Winterk
ill

> Does anyone know if Pt.hypselopterus and Pt.welaka will cross. I believe
> they are found in some of the same locations, at least in the FL
panhandle.
> If I were to put both species in my pond and the sailfins would spawn
maybe
> it would stimulate the bluenose to also. Anyone got other ideas?
>
> Chip in SC
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steffen Hellner [SMTP:steffen_at_hellner.biz]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 3:37 AM
> > To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> > Subject: Re: NANFA-- Bluenose Shiners & Pond Update- Recovery from
> > Winterk ill
> >
> > As far as I am informed (so it may be different) the welaka and hubbsi
are
> > separated in nature, their ranges don4t overlap. And more, they seem to
> > live
> > in the same ecological niche and that shouldn4t be kept together as they
> > most probably would rival each other. Or - even worse! - could cross
over
> > as
> > there might be no genetical barrier becaue they don4t live syntop and
> > never
> > encounter each other in nature.
> >
> > Steffen
> >
> > > Von: Chip Rinehart <crin_at_glassmaster.com>
> > > Antworten an: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> > > Datum: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:36:53 -0400
> > > An: "'nanfa_at_aquaria.net'" <nanfa at aquaria.net>
> > > Betreff: RE: NANFA-- Bluenose Shiners & Pond Update- Recovery from
> > Winterk
> > ill
> > >
> > > As I prepare my pond for the bluenose shiners and dollar sunfish, I
have
> > > decided to make two sections that the dollars can't follow the welaka
> > into.
> > > This will be done using 1/2" (or 3/4", I haven't decided for certain)
> > rigid
> > > plastic screen that the welaka can swim through but the dollars can't.
> > > Hopefully this will allow the shiners some refuge so they don't become
> > > fishfood. I'll probably put some Heterandria in there too, so that
the
> > > dollars will have something else to chase.
> > >
> > > Another thought.....are welaka and hubbsi ever found in the same
> > locations?
> > > I want to try the hubbsi as well but can only manage to get the one
pond
> > > setup before winter. I'm wondering if they would try to cross or if
one
> > > species starting to spawn might stimulate the other?
> > >
> > > Chip

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