Re: NANFA-L-- was goby bashing, changed to Dave bashing

marxxx (marxxx-in-earthlink.net)
Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:36:31 -0400

>From all of the biologists I have spoken with, no captive animals should be
released period. Even the bluegill that was caught up the road form your
house. It may (and most likely has) come in contact with could be
contaminants from tropical fish/ other pets. Even if a person only kept
natives, they could be from other states/lakes/river systems where new
parasites could be introduced. If said animal were released back to the
wild, it could of course take pathogens/parastites with it.

Conservation minded people have long said that pets are a long term
commitment, not to be taken lightly. They should not be dumped off-in-a
stream when we are tired of them.

In Ohio it is against the law to release animals.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Unmack" <peter.lists at>
To: "nanfa-l" <nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:27 PM
Subject: NANFA-L-- was goby bashing, changed to Dave bashing

> G'day Folks
>
> Todd, I think you are being slightly unfair to Dave. His answer may have
> had a potentially condescending tone-in-times (I'm sure mostly due to his
> frustration), but he was speaking from his heart and his answer made sense
> to me, even if it was a rather extreme example that he used relative to
> disposing of unwanted fish. While your relatives might know what to do
> with your fish if you suddenly disappeared, most folks wouldn't, thus I
> don't think it is valid to criticise him for assuming this. Hell, most
> younger people don't even have a will. Look-in-the recent craziness
> surrounding Terri Schiavo (who was still young), how many people would
> have even told someone else (let alone written details) about what to do
> should they be incapacitated in some way. Obviously those issues are far
> more important than fish, yet most people have never seriously planned for
> those events either! Thus, I don't this answer was that completely off
> the wall, especially given the impact this species could have if it
> spreads significantly. There are many great fishes out there, and there
> are many gobies that probably make much better aquarium pets (try some
> desert gobies, I highly recommend them, they are incredibly interesting).
> While I can understand why, despite all this, that someone might want to
> still keep those gobies, I still think NANFA as an organisation should
> discourage it. But if someone really wants to keep them, be responsible,
> and make sure folks know not to release your fish (as was suggested by
> other posters on this topic). Let's just all take a deep breath, close
> this subject, and move on to pursue more pleasant fruitful discussions.
>
> Tootles
> Peter Unmack
> Canadian River, Oklahoma
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