Yup, I came to a conclusion of a single species, Redline Darter after finally finding a good picture on natureserve, just didn't want to clog up the list with a 5 word post.
And ive been meaning to ask you this for a while Todd. Whenever I have gone to your site none of these new things, basically anything after 03 can be found through linking. The only time I have ever seen these things is when you post full links, and alot of times it sends me to a plain white screen link directory. Is it just me? Do I have a web setting wrong, but this has happened to me on several different computers.
"Crail, Todd" <tcrail-in-UTNet.UToledo.Edu> wrote:
I'm thinkin' Ranger Bob is all over this one. Redline are variable little suckers, like by the second. You may have only had one species, but with the variability. Here's some shots Jeff took when we were on our Spring Fling (named "redline" etc).
http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/springfling2005/Jeff/
Same fish moments later:
http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/springfling2005/Darter_Redline.jpg
Here's one from the upper French Broad-in-the SC Convention
http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/sc/darter_redline.jpg
Spotted darter will have very distinct spot patterns, with the long nose:
http://www.farmertodd.com/ohiofishpictures/pages/darter_spotted.asp
While bluebreasts have a truncated, down-turned nose:
http://www.farmertodd.com/ohiofishpictures/pages/darter_bluebreast.asp
Todd
The Muddy Maumee Madness, Toledo, OH
It's never too late to have a happy childhood.
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Now that I think about it the brown mottling and the brown bands along the fin margins look exactly right for a red line. I didnt think of that-in-all, well because no where else were they red, except that lip smudge and the fine spots. I would have thought they would have had some red on their fines especially those two margins on the dorsal fin, but they didnt. There was the paired caudal spot though so I guess they just weren't in color. I am starting to think I had two species of fish now though ...hm....Thanks much Ranger Bob.
Matt Ashton
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<DIV>Yup, I came to a conclusion of a single species, Redline Darter after finally finding a good picture on natureserve, just didn't want to clog up the list with a 5 word post.</DIV>
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<DIV>And ive been meaning to ask you this for a while Todd. Whenever I have gone to your site none of these new things, basically anything after 03 can be found through linking. The only time I have ever seen these things is when you post full links, and alot of times it sends me to a plain white screen link directory. Is it just me? Do I have a web setting wrong, but this has happened to me on several different computers.<BR><BR><B><I>"Crail, Todd" <tcrail-in-UTNet.UToledo.Edu></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>I'm thinkin' Ranger Bob is all over this one. Redline are </FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>variable little suckers, like by the second. You may have only had one species, but with the variability. Here's some shots Jeff took when we were on our Spring Fling (named "redline" etc).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Same fish moments later:</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Here's one from the upper French Broad-in-the SC Convention</DIV><A href="http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/sc/darter_redline.jpg">http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/sc/darter_redline.jpg</A>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Spotted darter will have very distinct spot patterns, with the long nose:</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>While bluebreasts have a truncated, down-turned nose:</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>Now that I think about it the brown mottling and the brown bands along the fin margins look exactly right for a red line. I didnt think of that-in-all, well because no where else were they red, except that lip smudge and the fine spots. I would have thought they would have had some red on their fines especially those two margins on the dorsal fin, but they didnt. There was the paired caudal spot though so I guess they just weren't in color. I am starting to think I had two species of fish now though ...hm....Thanks much Ranger Bob.</DIV>
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