Re: NANFA-L-- Preserves...


Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- Preserves...
From: James Smith (jim-in-fishiezoo.com)
Date: Sat Aug 07 2004 - 21:21:20 CDT


I havn't had a chance to look-in-the pictures yet, but based on this email
I wanted to add before heading off that I've put down fish with clove oil and
they look the same after. They just kinda go to sleep.

Jim

At 10:17 PM 8/7/2004, you wrote:
>Todd --
>
>I haven't managed to attract one of those, either. :)
>
>Seriously though -- I know hwat you mean about putting fish into formalin.
>I've done it before, straight from the water to the formalin, and beyond the
>fact that the fish often thrash and damage themselves, I have issues with it
>being a bit inhumane. You can use a number of various drugs that'll slowly
>put the fish to sleep, or-in-least anethestize it -- I'm blanking as to any
>of the common trade ones right now. You can also put the fish in a large
>bag or bucket of water and surround it with ice, and put it down that way
>before putting into the formalin bath.
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Todd Crail" <farmertodd-in-buckeye-express.com>
>To: <nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org>
>Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 9:56 PM
>Subject: NANFA-L-- Preserves...
>
>
> > Hi Gang,
> >
> > Well I have a short picturementary here to share from my week teaching a
> > camp on native fish-in-the Toledo Zoo. I'll write up something much more
> > detailed next week, but I do have a question for now.
> >
> > I have a fiesty lil' animal I need to preserve...
> >
> > So that the next time I do some of this:
> > http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/zoo/01.jpg
> >
> > When I have some of these:
> > http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/zoo/02.jpg
> >
> > And we DON'T miraculously catch (and immediately release :) one of these:
> > http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/zoo/03.jpg
> >
> > That still, amazingly, had one of these:
> > http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/zoo/04.jpg (kickin' yerself now Mr Z? :)
> >
> > That I can STILL attract one of these:
> > http://www.farmertodd.com/nanfa/zoo/05.jpg
> >
> > The idea here is... I don't want a personal formalin bath (from this thing
> > flying around when I put him down) and I would like to maintain as much of
> > the skin color for as long as possible (ie ethanol frosting ain't cool).
> > Suggestions? Maybe I can put him down with Isopropyl alcohol and then
>move
> > him into the more permanent formalin crypt.
> >
> > Is that going to burn his silky skin (the isopropyl)? I know it doesn't
>do
> > damage to scaled fishes... But I don't want to flub this one up.
> >
> > I can not believe how much these things slime and poop. I've changed the
> > water twice now since midnight last night and the water still has a
>blackish
> > tint to it. Hoping to put him down nice n gentle tomorrow as early as
> > possible, so as to not border on inhumane :)
> >
> > Todd
> > The Mighty Maumee Madness, Toledo, OH
> > It's never too late to have a happy childhood.
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: Wed Sep 29 2004 - 12:24:17 CDT