RE: NANFA-L-- A word from the NANFA past

Subject: RE: NANFA-L-- A word from the NANFA past
From: Bob Sinclair (
Date: Tue Aug 31 2004 - 19:49:24 CDT

Well said, Andy. Your points are well taken...but don't share the feeling
expresses in your closing sentence.

I'm still happy and proud to be a member of NANFA. It is my hope the
association will soon return to its former more tranquil state.

Bob Sinclair
Santa Barbara CA
  -----Original Message-----
  Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 5:07 PM
  Subject: NANFA-L-- A word from the NANFA past

  In a message dated 8/31/2004 5:51:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes:
    Many of the people who are turning their back on NANFA today because of
this email list were here 10 years ago when NANFA had nothing -- no
publication (or a very shoddy and inconsistent one), no money, no
conventions, no t-shirts, no public outreach, no grants, no credibility and
respect among the academic, government, and conservation sectors -- and
certainly no email list
  I've been a member since 1982. The publication was not so slick as it is
now but it was written by members who kept and bred native fish and were
proud of it. I submitted articles and was very proud that they were printed.
We traded fish and made friends that have lasted over the years. And there
was no fighting or members leaving as there are now.
     Not the publication today written mostly by academics and fish/wildlife
people. If all I wanted to read was technical fish literature I would only
read Copeia.
    Not all the members can afford to travel to conventions. And If I want a
fish tee shirt there is a local K-mart.
     The conservation grants aspect seems to me to be a copy of the NFC. I
believe many of the members still keep and breed native fish and are
interested in information on them.
    You members that have only been in NANFA a few years have no right to
put down what NANFA was in the past.
     And no Chris 10- 20 years ago NANFA was NOT nothing it was something an
organization I was proud to be a member of. Something I'm not always so
proud of now.

Andy Borgia

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