Re: NANFA-L-- California Natives - Now Suckers

Todd D. Crail (tcrail-in-UTNet.UToledo.Edu)
Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:39:17 -0400

Well... It depends on how much food you're willing to feed. I keep a couple
biguttatus in with them just fine... But a single micropogon would be too
much, I imagine leptocephalus are the same. So yeah, you're probably going
to have to leave Nocomis out of the picture unless you can get up north or
west. A couple Cyps won't do any harm, they'll saturate... But Nocomis
seems to be able to stuff themselves in an unholy way.

So really to point this out, I have a $50 a month food bill among 300
gallons I'm feeding. This isn't for everyone, but it can be done. I'm
sucker crazy, and if that's what it takes to keep them on my meager grad
stipend, well, I'll eat ramen and pb&j.

I am keeping them just fine with dace (no blacknose though, they're pigs),
Notropis, Lythrurus, Fundulus, smaller Noturus, a couple northern longears,
about 15 darter species (which logperch, rainbows and orangethroats do
poorly over time because they eat too much and get too fat, but I can
finally keep greensides and banded glowing and johnny darters robust for a
year plus).

Last count, I had 34 species of fish in the 100 gallon. The blacktails are
in with about 15 species in a 40 gallon, many of which are cyprinids, and
mostly rainbow shiners.

The Maumee Madness, Toledo, OH
It's never too late to have a happy childhood.

----- Original Message -----
From: "matt ashton" <>

> Todd what other fish species are kept with your suckers? I've been trying
to start with fingerling hogsuckers but those seem to starve quicker than
the 1-2" ones. I'm attributing alot of it to them just being out competed
because there is never a drop of food on the bottom like you mention.
Between the Cyprinella's and the Nocomis they will eat as long as I keep
putting in food. Anything else is picked up-in-night by the madtoms.
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