Re: NANFA-L-- euthanasia - Clove Oil

Jase Roberts (nanfa_list-in-jaseroberts.net)
Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:51:46 -0400

And if you're going to use clove oil, don't forget the alcohol. Todd and Peter both reminded us of that several months ago. Clove oil itself isn't very soluble in water, but dissolving it in a bit of ethanol first apparently helps it to more thoroughly mix with the water. Peter's note is copied in Riffles of the latest AC.

-Jase

Todd D. Crail wrote:
> You can get clove oil at most any health food store or pharmacy and the fish
> just go to sleep... Much to the bane of some ichthyologists because they
> don't get the It's usually much less expensive at a health food store.
> There's no chemicals to clean up or worry about, and gee, it smells good too
> :)
>
> Todd
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bonnie McNeely" <bnmcneely-in-sbcglobal.net>
>
>> MS-222 is expensive to buy. I did not know that Petco was supplying it
> free. There might be some liability concerns, because it is not without
> danger if unless used carefully. That is true of other chemicals that stores
> supply, however.
>> If you want to kill them chemically, I would recommend clove oil or
> carbon dioxide. Formalin is not considered humane by veterinarians, and the
> American Society of Ichthyologists and Herpetologists recommends an
> anesthetic like clove oil, MS-222, or carbon dioxide before immersing fish
> in formalin for collections, if possible. Carbon dioxide does anesthetize,
> but it suffocates too, if too much is given, and the fish die with their
> mouths open. So, I'm not sure about humane, or even what that means with
> fish (see below).
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Jase Roberts
Lewiston, Maine
on the Androscoggin River
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