Re: NANFA-L-- brindled madtoms in winter

Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- brindled madtoms in winter
From: Lori Austin (
Date: Fri Dec 10 2004 - 19:41:58 CST

In the Blanchard are you or can you get brindles year round? Are you getting them in the riffles? I always thought the Blanchard was a silt laden agriculture stream....kinda like the Auglaze. That is based on limited exposure about 15 years ago. Although I know one of those streams up there has Villosa fabilis .... Sounds like I need to head up to northwestern Ohio. You had me wondering about them northern longear. Now brindleds.

"Todd D. Crail" <tcrail-in-UTNet.UToledo.Edu> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: Lori Austin
What are the techniques...seining-in-night? baited minnow trap overnight? what is the likelihood of finding some this time of year?

Believe it or not... With a dipnet downstream of the target, turning each rock over one-in-a time, seems to be the best solo method. Microsampling, so to speak.
The other method is to get someone who's willing to REALLY dig into the substrates (not this bump n run kick seining stuff people do) and get them up out of the habitat. There's a large population on the Blanchard River up here (exceptionally sized specimens as well. Cavender couldn't believe the vouchers coming back :) and if we just dilly dally, we might find one or so. But if we REALLY work the substrates, we find a heck of a lot more.
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