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OK, I am going to head this off-in-the pass. Todd, not that you in any way
suggested, but I would hope that all of us attending would agree that we are
not taking orders for hellbenders, right? Would we agree that although
they are not listed (here) that it would be irresponsible for us to collect
any, except under the most exceptional of circumstances? (And I do remember
our discussion on this topic a couple of years ago ;)
Nick Zarlinga
Aquarium Biologist
Cleveland Metroparks Zoo
216.661.6500 ext 4485
"Who hears the fishes when they cry?"
Henry Thoreau--1817-1862
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From: owner-nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org [owner-nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org]On Behalf Of
Crail, Todd
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:45 AM
To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
Subject: NANFA-L-- Contact-in-PA F&GC?
Howdy gang... I've been doing a little work preparing for our French Creek
outing. I haven't heard from Wally, so we'll probably not be able to count
on his guidance. But I think we can put together a really nice trip. I
found a website with photos of all the bridges crossing French Creek that
also has information about parking and in many cases, the way the stream
looks below the bridge. I may even go out and scout during the week next
week.
I've also scanned the offering of materials made by the PA Fish and Game
Commission to find out what is legal to take with a PA fishing liscence.
This is a little bit opposite of what I'm used to. I wondered if anyone had
a contact-in-the Commission who can affirm what I and others have read in
the regulations?
As someone mentioned before... It appears that we can have two, non-state
listed, amphibians (which includes hellbenders) in our possession per
liscence, and up to 50 live mussels (which I assume applies for the relicts
I would actually like to collect) besides the two species on the Fed list
(which you _really_ don't want in your possession, dead or alive).
On the other hand, we can only use a 4' seine to try and view all the
showboat state listed darters we just want to take a look at, photograph and
send back on their way. I should have applied for a Science and Education
Permit, but hindsight is 20/20, and they need 15 days to process, and my
advisor is going to want to see other documents in my hand for his perusal,
if you know what I mean ;)
So I'm thinking dip nets and/or snorkeling are going to be key on this
trip... Will work very well for the bluebreast, tippecanoe, variegate (not
listed btw) and the madtoms. Might get lucky and catch a spotted, longhead
or gilt that way (I've caught spotted with dipnet, but not reliably).
Todd
The Muddy Maumee Madness, Toledo, OH
It's never too late to have a happy childhood.
http://www.farmertodd.com <http://www.farmertodd.com>
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