Nick Zarlinga wrote:
> OK, I am going to head this off-in-the pass. Todd, not that you in any way
> suggested, but I would hope that all of us attending would agree that we are
> not taking orders for hellbenders, right? Would we agree that although
> they are not listed (here) that it would be irresponsible for us to collect
> any, except under the most exceptional of circumstances? (And I do remember
> our discussion on this topic a couple of years ago ;)
> Nick Zarlinga
> Aquarium Biologist
> Cleveland Metroparks Zoo
> 216.661.6500 ext 4485
> "Who hears the fishes when they cry?"
> Henry Thoreau--1817-1862
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> From: owner-nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org [owner-nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org]On Behalf Of
> Crail, Todd
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:45 AM
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> Subject: NANFA-L-- Contact-in-PA F&GC?
> Howdy gang... I've been doing a little work preparing for our French Creek
> outing. I haven't heard from Wally, so we'll probably not be able to count
> on his guidance. But I think we can put together a really nice trip. I
> found a website with photos of all the bridges crossing French Creek that
> also has information about parking and in many cases, the way the stream
> looks below the bridge. I may even go out and scout during the week next
> I've also scanned the offering of materials made by the PA Fish and Game
> Commission to find out what is legal to take with a PA fishing liscence.
> This is a little bit opposite of what I'm used to. I wondered if anyone had
> a contact-in-the Commission who can affirm what I and others have read in
> the regulations?
> As someone mentioned before... It appears that we can have two, non-state
> listed, amphibians (which includes hellbenders) in our possession per
> liscence, and up to 50 live mussels (which I assume applies for the relicts
> I would actually like to collect) besides the two species on the Fed list
> (which you _really_ don't want in your possession, dead or alive).
> On the other hand, we can only use a 4' seine to try and view all the
> showboat state listed darters we just want to take a look at, photograph and
> send back on their way. I should have applied for a Science and Education
> Permit, but hindsight is 20/20, and they need 15 days to process, and my
> advisor is going to want to see other documents in my hand for his perusal,
> if you know what I mean ;)
> So I'm thinking dip nets and/or snorkeling are going to be key on this
> trip... Will work very well for the bluebreast, tippecanoe, variegate (not
> listed btw) and the madtoms. Might get lucky and catch a spotted, longhead
> or gilt that way (I've caught spotted with dipnet, but not reliably).
> The Muddy Maumee Madness, Toledo, OH
> It's never too late to have a happy childhood.
> http://www.farmertodd.com <http://www.farmertodd.com>
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