RE: NANFA-L-- Next Batch & Answer for Jim

Bruce Stallsmith (
Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:30:00 -0500

Thanks for posting those pictures Todd, I admit that I wanted copies of
those Little Buffalo "Eth. simoterum" photos. They really do look markedly
different from simoterum I've seen in a tributary to Piney Creek in
Limestone County, AL, or in the upper Paint Rock system in Jackson County,
AL. And they're certainly very different from Eth. duryi, without the
slightest hint of continuous black laterally connecting the dorsal saddles.

Also, was it just my imagination, or did the male simoterum glisten with
more blue when freshly caught than is in the photos?

--Bruce Stallsmith
Along the Black Darter Highway, the Tennessee
Huntsville, AL, US of A

>From: "Crail, Todd" <tcrail-in-UTNet.UToledo.Edu>
>To: <>
>Subject: NANFA-L-- Next Batch & Answer for Jim
>Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 15:24:12 -0500
>Hi Jim,
>When I say "in the cooler", yeah that's what I mean. In a cooler. What I
>this trip is use live substrates (about 1-2") and then change water every
>couple days. I also threw in carbon bags to each cooler. The only losses
>had, again, were those rosysides that checked out the first night. And
>really were the only fishes I had any trouble with here-in-home too (I put
>down 3, the rest seem to have stabilized). Everyone else has been just
>Okay, more eye candy. Not as bright and shiney, but definately more weird
>A couple things...
>The ammocete is probably also a chestnut lamprey, which is what I _think_
>the adult found in the main directory.
>Is the shiner actually a mirror shiner (N. spectraluncus)? At first I was
>like "Whoa! Exoglossum? Hyboganthus? What are you doin' up here in the
>mountains?!?" You probably can't see it, but there is a conspicuous black
>spot on the caudal peduncle.
>And the buffalo river "cf". They just didn't look right for simoterum to
>and Bruce. I should have kept all the blacks, snubs and these separate for
>when they all color down, but hindsight is 20/20.
>I think that swannona shot is my favorite picture in the batch. Using the
>flash actually worked out in the tank for once :)
>The Muddy Maumee Madness, Toledo, OH
>It's never too late to have a happy childhood.
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