My assertion earlier was not that I believe that this fish should be allowed
to be sold. I was only pointing out the difficulty that Mark-in-Aquabid has
in determining which fish are allowed to be sold and which aren't. This
fish certainly has no different protection status than say the Betta
macrostoma or Characodon spp., but no one has come out and said that they
didn't think these should be sold. The culture of aquarium fish is odd.
People always want what they can't have and they want to be the first to own
it. It's more like a bunch of kids than anything else. There is a fine
line between the conservation-minded aquarist and the collection-driven
aquarist and it is hard to expect one person to make these decisions. I
feel confident that if Mark had some type of hard and fast guideline as to
what can and cannot be sold, he would follow it to the letter. Like I said
earlier, he makes nothing off of sales unless it is voluntarily contributed,
so why wouldn't he?
Dustin Smith
Lexington, SC
At the convergence of the Broad, Saluda and Congaree
----Original Message Follows----
From: "J. C." <hillbillynursery-in-yahoo.com>
Reply-To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- Re: Chinese Sturgeon on AquaBid
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:14:04 -0700 (PDT)
I know I got a South American killie(Simp.
constanciae Barra de Sao Joao) that was collected and
then a mall build where they were. located. I was told
there were a few of this species still in the wild but
the numbers are very limited. They are easy to breed
in captivity and a nice looking fish so I think the
hobbiest will keep them going. So it was hobbiest that
collected and saved these fish from extinction. So I
know how hobbiest can save a species.
But how big of a tank is required to raise such a
fish like this sturgeon in captivity. What is the like
hood of captive breeding this specie? My thoughts were
that there is only a slim chance someone would have
the space to house just one of these let alone have a
tank set up for breeding these fish. Then when you
take into account his comment about don't ask how I
got them really makes it look like wild caught fish.
Later, John
--- Dustin Smith <dsmith73-in-hotmail.com> wrote:
Like someone else mentioned, there are
> many fishes that are protected or even possibly
> extinct within their home
> range(ie. Ameca splendens and other Goodeids), but
> are readily available via
> other hobbyists on Aquabid. Should these sales also
> be disallowed.
>
> I am not on one side or the other here. I believe
> the sturgeon auction
> should be removed, if for no other reason, the
> sketchy origin. I also think
> that some fish such as the Goodeids and killies
> should continue to be
> allowed. These fish would be gone altogether due to
> habitat loss if not for
> the network of hobbyists and other institutions that
> continue to propagate
> them.
>
>
>
> Dustin Smith
> Lexington, SC
> At the convergence of the Broad, Saluda and Congaree
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Mysteryman <bestfish-in-alaweb.com>
> Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- Re: Chinese Sturgeon on
> AquaBid
> Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 04:38:49 -0700
>
> matt ashton wrote:
>
> >It falls under Cites Appendix II. All Acipenseridae
> species that are not
> >listed under Appendix I are listed under Appendix
> II.
> > Matt
> >
> I'll tell you the reason for the attitude:
> money.
> Aquabid gets a percentage from sales, and an
> expensive fish like that makes
> more money for AB. ALSO, controversy results in
> pageviews, and pageviews
> translate into money from the advertisers.
> Aquabid disallows the sales of all herps, but
> hypocritically & routinely
> allows the sale of restricted fishes & plants. No
> one has been able to
> figure out that one.
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