--Bruce Stallsmith
the Tennessee, yes?
Huntsville, AL, US of A
>From: "Dave Neely" <rheopresbe at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: nanfa-l at nanfa.org
>To: nanfa-l at nanfa.org
>Subject: NANFA-L-- stonerollers
>Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:19:26 -0500
>
>hey Bruce,
>
>...a small correction - the stoneroller picture isn't that confusing, just
>seems that fish folks in the good old days (ie. Girard, Cope, Jordan,
>Evermann, etc.) were more astute than most contemporary ichthyologists.
>Both oligolepis and anomalum are composed of multiple distinct lineages,
>some of which (michauxi, plumbeum, pullum, etc) are phenotypically distinct
>(the reason some of them were named in the first place)! The several labs
>that are working on this issue seem to be converging on a similar picture
>(righto Peter?)...
>
>cheers,
>Dave
>
>
>>Genetic analysis gives a confusing picture of population/species structure
>>within and between anomalum and oligolepis, with phenotypic differences
>>more irregular than makes easy sense too. This is based on work done in
>>Rick Mayden's lab, both in Alabama and St. Louis, that I saw presented
>>several years ago at an ASIH meeting. There are different species within
>>this group, but the demarcations probably don't match traditional thinking
>>as I understand it.
>>
>>--Bruce Stallsmith
>>the sunny Tennessee
>>Huntsville, AL, US of A
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