Re: NANFA-- American Currents
Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:50:21 EDT

In a message dated 8/26/00 10:17:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, writes:

<< American Currents, no matter what you think of the issue at hand,
or those in the past, is truly unique. I think it should always be
applauded, even if the selection of articles does not interest you this
issue ( gernerically speaking, which ever issue might be being discussed) ,
as someone is surly learning and devouring the information at hand. >>

I like all of the articles. I have to restrict myself due to time
restrictions, and because my commentary on a whole article could potentially
fill a book! So I generally pick an article or two to talk about or I
question something that I read which I don't understand.

<< The main thing that
got me thinking is esox do not use atmospheric oxygen like the other 5
speices do. >>

Good point; I totally forgot about that. If anything, that would seem to be
the factor which would truly separate any one umbrid from being separated
taxonomically from the other umbrids and being put into the same family as

<< Bass are
sunfish, but their fins and mouth shapes are much different ( but still
similar, as pikes are to mudminnows), putting them in a different genus, but
not another family. >>

You know, I thought of that earlier but when by the time I posted this I
forgot. That is a good point. If we were to go solely by physical
resemblances, a case could almost be made for Micropterus basses being in the
same family as Cichla peacock basses, which they're obviously not. Externally
they have some differences like one set of nostrils versus the Micropterus
basses' two, ect. I was just saying that the physical resemblances of the
Olympic mudminnows to the central and eastern mudminnows seemed much closer
than the Olympic mudminnow to the pikes. I guess when you consider the Cichla
versus Micropterus comparison it's all relative though.

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