Steffen Hellner wrote:
> I share your hope of things changing but when I look at the coming
> generation I see only tech, drugs, fun, sex, cars, money and most of all -
> no responsibility. The last time I had to select young people for education
> as advertising professional I didn4t take any of the candidates and left the
> position vacant. None of them was in any way reflecting, responsible or
> ambitioned. Sad to say. I am happy every time I meet a young person whos
> brain is working independently from mass consum and time smashing.
> The other side of the medal: nowhere in the world nature is treated worse
> than in the underdeveloped countries. They are not closer to nature by mind
> rather than only by situation. They destroy their land, pollute their waters
> and kill their native animals faster and more consequently than we in Europe
> or North America have ever done. The Bison can be happy not to have lived in
> Asia or Africa.
> > Von: "Todd Crail" <farmertodd_at_buckeye-express.com>
> > Antworten an: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> > Datum: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:58:33 -0500
> > An: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> > Betreff: Re: NANFA-- "Ugliest fish in North America"
> > The lunchtime rant... ;)
> > I agree Steffen... For a global change, it would have to be something of a
> > spiritual reawakening where people cast aside the major ideologies and
> > distractions of consumerism and begin living in the now so the future
> > becomes much more clear to each individual. That's not to say they start
> > living less comfortably... But more so that they stop believing the lie
> > "things" and products should make them happy. An entire transformation
> > occurrs when a person comes upon that epiphany.
> > Their dislocation from nature (if you can get them out in it) is a
> > vector for that epiphany. It is my ambition to help lead as many people as
> > possible _comfortably_ into this world I understand and know so well, that
> > they can also.
> > I also think the divorce of consumerism is a core tenant to all major
> > religions (theistic and non-theistic alike) and I would argue that with so
> > many people finding themselves fortunate enough to get solid educations (A
> > conundrum for sure! Had to get money to not lust for money!), that the
> > dogma and extremism that have plagued our spiritual outlets can be stripped
> > away, and people will begin discovering their spiritual selves.
> > Economically, I see a similar pattern where Executives can not hide behind
> > their accountants or interests any longer. Politically, I can't wait to
> > what this next election brings. Hopefully not apathy because "the votes
> > didn't count". In any case, it seems that a growing minority are beginning
> > to understand enough about their world that they're ready to account for
> > themselves, and not get led around like a flock of sheep.
> > And those same kids that were distracted with toys and tech as
> > babysitters... They aren't as a whole buying it like generations past.
> > They're more educated as a group than any other generation (which hopefully
> > continues its accumulating pattern), acknowledge what's happened (listen to
> > the current "alternative music" lyrics, 'Linkin Park' for example), and
> > are pissssed off about it. They're the easy targets :)
> > Their parents... _Much_ more like what you describe, but I haven't given
> > hope up on them yet. I've seen so many examples of small changes that I
> > don't feel so hopeless that they aren't accumulating into bigger changes.
> > In any case, I'm not going to stop providing the "local" with my "global".
> > Certainly, this is an American perspective on American logistics and
> > culture... Unfortunately, I do not feel I have enough breadth in my World
> > scope to say how it is elsewhere. I would say in the "developing" world,
> > tho, that the people are still close enough with the Earth that they can be
> > steered away from what has taken a near century for the Industrialized West
> > to understand. I have hope that this is true.
> > With that all in mind... Today is a good day to go take a walk at the park.
> > Todd
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steffen Hellner" <steffen_at_hellner.biz>
> > To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 3:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: NANFA-- "Ugliest fish in North America"
> >> Nicely argumented. But I tend to see and treat things more simple after
> >> having thought about it again and again for two decades:
> >> 1st: The majority of people all around the world generally looks at nature
> >> conservation not as protecting our natural basis but as an "extra" we can
> >> afford as long as economy is well off. If not so, then it is obsolet.
> > Money
> >> comes first. Or did I misunderstand you, Mr. Bush? Or Mr.
> >> President/Chancellor of most countries and most firms around the globe?
> >> 2nd: Idiots of all kind and groups have trained the younger generations to
> >> play Gameboy, Playstation, be interested in fancy cars, cloths, fashion,
> >> money, career and whatever is profitable for industry and trade. Not
> >> reading, learning, thinking, not at least caring seriously for environment
> >> and our future. The big play must go on. It4s enough to have some tigers,
> >> crocs, and Pandas in the zoos.
> >> 3rd: People tend to take the smooth way. Opportunism rules everywhere. And
> >> mediocracy. And the majority is either too dumn, too lazy or too much
> > bound
> >> to particular interests to be able or willing to change something. This
> >> could mean to get problems. Very few people are willing to take that risk.
> >> Still, if one is really active in doing something he is widely seen and
> >> treated as an "ecological nuts".
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