I'd reply to your insinuations, but as usual they are presented with
arrogance and self-rightousness. So, I'll leave you to your ivory
tower. Too bad the busses weren't running on your way to
work...bang!...on less problem in the world.
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Dave Neely wrote:
> >No...that's not what I'm saying Dave and you damn well know it! What I >am
> >saying is that it will be impossible to enforce these regulations on the
> >literally tens or hundreds of thousands of small, privately owned farm
> >ponds in this state. I'm all for stopping agricultural runnoff, I'm all
> ...and the new legislation provides a legal basis for accountability, which
> hasn't been present before. The EPA isn't jumping down the throat of
> individual farmers- much of the rest of this country has similar laws in
> place, that are enforced primarily when larger operations muck things up...
> Besides, shouldn't ALL bodies of water be safe for kids to swim in? To serve
> as water supplies? I'm sorry Luke, but that's not idealism...
> >a small stock pond on his land will be attacked, fined and labled a
> >criminal by overzealous EPA people who don't go after the real polluters
> >in this state like they should. Corporate hog farms (which will soon >come
> >to the state in certain counties I understand) large commercial >feedlots,
> >industry, cities, lawn-care companies and the like. But, and >someone made
> >this observation earlier I believe, the big agencies >rarely go after those
> >that can protect themselves but the "little guy" >who can't.
> Sounds like you've been getting your info from Weekly World News and the Pat
> Robertson channel again. Relax, take a deep breath.
> >...But, they also have to feed their families and just about all
> >of them feel they have a right to do so on their land...NOT that they
> >intend to pollute and even WANT to pollute. They've been sold such a >huge
> >"bill of goods" though by Federal, State and private agencies that >they
> >HAVE to spray this, or MUST fertilize that to the point that they >are the
> >scapegoats of a much bigger problem. IF THEY WERE GIVEN THE >WHOLE FACTS
> >and not simply demonized and treated, as Dave has done, as >backward hicks
> >who don't give a damn you would all be suprised at the >results and ASHAMED
> >of your attitudes towards them.
> Groundwater resources go beyond private land boundaries, or are you too
> thick-headed to see that? I know several farmers who probably have a better
> knowledge of hydrology, soils, and ecology than you do. Your portrayal of
> farmers as being powerless is way off the mark. I agree that farmers are
> critical to conservation efforts- and they should probably applaud this
> decision. It's not hard to keep agricultural runoff out of streams, ponds,
> etc. As stated before, a lot of the negativity is from politicians who have
> spread misinformation, inciting the farming community.
> It doesn't matter whether you are talking about Kansas, or Minnesota, or
> Alabama, or wherever. A legal basis for protecting surface and groundwater
> is necessary for the "common good."
> (who rode his bike into work today, like every day...)
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