>From: Ty_Hall_at_eFunds.Com
>Reply-To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
>To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
>Subject: Re: NANFA-- choices
>Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:06:23 -0500
>
>
>Traditional resources no, but traditional fuel types will not allow that
>kind of travel, so it becomes a moot point. In order to realize the promise
>of leaving this planet new forms of travel and propulsion will have to be
>invented. Our current technology will not support the types of travel
>needed to reach out of our own solar system. IMHO.
>
>I also don't know about the fact that we need to leave the earth to sustain
>our own existence. I do feel that some tough decisions will need to be made
>in the next 100 years and our ability to make those decision, before it's
>too late, will be key. Things like limiting population growth, strict land
>use regulation and such are not popular themes. Bringing these up will
>quickly shatter any politicians hopes of holding office, but those are the
>kinds of things that will need to be addressed. I also feel that for
>mankind to exist on this planet we need to drop this national interest crap
>and inhabit the planet as Earthlings/Human Beings instead of as Europeans
>or Americans or Chinese or whatever. The entire planet needs to be "One
>nation under God(s)." If we can do that and get past our petty human
>differences, then the future looks bright. On a small scale we have been
>able to do many great things. In many respects the environment is in better
>shape now then it was 50 years ago. But there is a lot to be done and some
>very large obstacles to overcome. We have the power to do it, are we smart
>enough to realize it? The cynic in me says no, mankind will kill itself
>fighting over petty differences and meaningless border wars. The optimist
>in me says yes and it will be glorious. The realist in me says I will see
>neither and pray for my children and grandchildren to have the wisdom and
>the strength to succeed where we failed.
>
>My $.02 worth (may be less depending on your ideals)
>
>Ty "That's enough deep thought for a Monday" Hall
>
>
>
>Very good points!.. I would like to know how we are going to "get off" the
>planet in the first place, because the question that enters my mind is
>"Will
>there be enough "fuel resources" left to get us outta here by the time that
>time comes????
>
> >From: Moontanman_at_aol.com
> >Reply-To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> >To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
> >Subject: Re: NANFA-- choices
> >Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 07:23:01 EDT
> >
> >In a message dated 9/9/00 3:38:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> >normane_at_edelendoors.com writes:
> >
> ><< n the long run, none of this matters. There is no way to curb the
>human
> > population growth, and we will just have to give up nature in favor of
> >human
> > survival. Trees, meadows, polar ice, and yes, even fish are all going
>to
> >be
> > given up in the name of survival of this building swarm of people.
> > >>
> >Unfortunately you are correct, but off world colonies as you say are not
> >intended to relieve the over population here no more than emigrating from
> >Europe relieved the population pressure there when the "new" world was
> >discovered. Off world colonies would be great for the individuals lucky
> >enough to take advantage of the opportunity but in the long run it would
> >just
> >be a way of getting all our eggs out of the same basket in case of a
> >planetary disaster. Or in the case of terraforming spread life away from
> >earth kinda like the earths biosphere reproducing with us as the gametes.
> >I think humans are destined to spread through out the galaxy, if we don't
> >we'll die, it's as simple as that. The earth can't support us forever,
>(We
> >foul our own nest) sooner or later, to survive, we'll have to make our
>own
> >ecosystems and habitats. Lets hope we have the sense to take as much of
>the
> >earths biosphere with us as we can.
> >
> >
>Moon
>
>
>
>
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