RE: NANFA-L-- cold euthanasia

Nick Zarlinga (njz-in-clevelandmetroparks.com)
Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:45:57 -0400

I guess the bicabonate would radically affect the pH, therefore nullifying
our "painless" goal.

Nick Zarlinga
Aquarium Biologist
Cleveland Metroparks Zoo
3900 Wildlife Way
Cleveland, OH 44109
216-661-6500 ext 4485

>)))): -----Original Message-----
>)))): From: owner-nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
>)))): [owner-nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie McNeely
>)))): Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:34 AM
>)))): To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
>)))): Subject: RE: NANFA-L-- cold euthanasia
>)))):
>)))):
>)))): Alka seltzer is a mixture of asperin and sodium
>)))): bicarbonate. There is an acid source besides the
>)))): asperin, but I don't recall what it is. Dissolved in
>)))): water, it releases carbon dioxide. It works as an
>)))): anesthetic. When I used it, the fish died with their
>)))): mouths open. Maybe the water was low DO, and the
>)))): soporific effect of the carbon dioxide exacerbated the effect.
>)))):
>)))): Dave
>)))):
>)))): Nick Zarlinga <njz-in-clevelandmetroparks.com> wrote:
>)))): Does anyone use Alka-selzer for euthanitization? May
>)))): not be the most inexpensive way, however it may be the
>)))): most convenient....depending on you gastrointestinal conditions.
>)))):
>)))): I was under the impression that CO2 is a humane way to
>)))): euthanatize since it is independent of the amount of O2
>)))): available to the specimen, therefore no perceived lack
>)))): of oxygen response.
>)))):
>)))): Nick Zarlinga
>)))): Aquarium Biologist
>)))): Cleveland Metroparks Zoo
>)))): 3900 Wildlife Way
>)))): Cleveland, OH 44109
>)))): 216-661-6500 ext 4485
>)))):
>)))):
>)))): >)))): -----Original Message-----
>)))): >)))): From: owner-nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
>)))): >)))): [owner-nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org] On Behalf Of
>)))): Christopher Scharpf
>)))): >)))): Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 7:20 AM
>)))): >)))): To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
>)))): >)))): Subject: Re: NANFA-L-- cold euthanasia
>)))): >)))):
>)))): >)))):
>)))): >)))): > Some kinds of fishes in northern climes are known to
>)))): >)))): actually freeze
>)))): >)))): > onto the underside of ice in winter -- Alaskan
>)))): >)))): blackfish for example,
>)))): >)))): > and to be perfectly ok when the thaw arrives in the
>)))): >)))): spring. At least
>)))): >)))): > textbooks report that as true; I've nat witnessed it.
>)))): >)))):
>)))): >)))): Claims of blackfish surviving freezing have been
>)))): >)))): exaggerated and not supported by laboratory experiments.
>)))): >)))): However, they can survive partial freezing.
>)))): >)))):
>)))): >)))): Chris Scharpf
>)))): >)))): far from Alaska
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