RE: NANFA-L-- sunnies v. cichlids was tree of life

Bob Bock (bockhouse-in-earthlink.net)
Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:54:04 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

This is such a great list. You can find someone knowledgeable enough to answer just about anything.

Thanks, Dustin!

-----Original Message-----
>From: Dustin Smith <dsmith73-in-hotmail.com>
>Sent: Mar 6, 2006 8:40 AM
>To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
>Subject: RE: NANFA-L-- sunnies v. cichlids was tree of life
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>It's my understanding that, though cichlids and centrarchids are very
>closely aligned behaviorly, they are not closely related evolutionarily.
>Cichlids are derived from marine fish, where apparently the centrarchids
>have always been freshwater. There is also quite a bit of difference in
>spawning methods, with the cichlids showing quite a bit more diversity.
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>Dustin Smith
>Lexington, SC
>At the convergence of the Broad, Saluda and Congaree
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>----Original Message Follows----
>From: "Bob Bock" <bockhouse-in-earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
>To: nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org
>Subject: NANFA-L-- sunnies v. cichlids was tree of life
>Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 06:56:52 -0500
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>Since I'm working on this Powerpoint presentation, does anyone know if it's
>possible to say how closely sunfish are related to cichlids, given that
>they're kind of similar in general respects? I guess it's safe to say that
>their both perciform species, but is there any closer relationship than
>that?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Bob
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> > [Original Message]
> > From: Doug Sharp <dougsharp-in-channelzilch.com>
> > To: <nanfa-l-in-nanfa.org>
> > Date: 3/4/2006 4:34:56 PM
> > Subject: NANFA-L-- A new tree of life allows a closer look-in-the origin
>ofspecies
> >
> > This new "tree of life" based on analysis of the evolution of genes
>caught
> > my eye this morning. Of course, Danio rerio has a prominent place in the
> > tree. I didn't know that the pufferfish Takifugi rubripes was "a model
> > vertebrate for genome analysis because of its small genome". Fish are
> > squeezed in between chickens and mosquitoes on the outer ring of the
>chart.
> >
> > Synopsis of "Science" Article:
> > http://www.embl.org/aboutus/news/press/2006/02mar06/index.html
> > Large Chart:
> > http://www.bork.embl.de/tree_of_life/tree_Feb15_300dpi.jpg
> >
> > "In 1870 the German scientist Ernst Haeckel mapped the evolutionary
> > relationships of plants and animals in the first 'tree of life'. Since
>then
> > scientists have continuously redrawn and expanded the tree adding
> > microorganisms and using modern molecular data, yet, many parts of the
>tree
> > have remained unclear. Now a group-in-the European Molecular Biology
> > Laboratory [EMBL] in Heidelberg has developed a computational method that
> > resolves many of the open questions and produced what is likely the most
> > accurate tree ever. The study, which appears in the current issue of the
> > journal Science, gives some intriguing insights into the origins of
>bacteria
> > and the last common universal ancestor of all life on earth today."
> >
> > "DNA sequences of complete genomes provide us with a direct record of
> > evolution", says Peer Bork, Associate Coordinator for Structural and
> > Computational Biology-in-EMBL, whose group carried out the project. "For
>a
> > long time the overwhelming amount of data [the human genome alone
>contains
> > enough information to fill 200 telephone books] has made it very
>difficult
> > to pinpoint the information needed for a high-resolution map of
>evolution.
> > But our study shows how this challenge can be tackled by combining
>different
> > computational methods in an automated process."
> >
> > Source Article:
> > F. D. Ciccarelli, T. Doerks, C. von Mering, C. J. Creevey, B. Snel & P.
> > Bork. Towards automatic reconstruction of a highly resolved tree of life.
> > Science, 3 March 2006.
> >
> > - Doug Sharp, on the still-frozen Martel Lake, WI - home of the elusive
> > fathead minnow
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