RE: NANFA-L-- More Fish IDs

Crail, Todd (tcrail-in-UTNet.UToledo.Edu)
Mon, 22 May 2006 20:53:53 -0400

Looks like another stoneroller to me, esp 1g.jpg.

At that size, when you have stonerollers, creek chubs and Pimephales species
together (which is most all of the eastern US), you really have to analize the
mouth. There aren't hard and fast rules that work 100% on spots etc.

The stoneroller will have an open "c" looking mouth completely below the
"nose" (subterminal). With it, it chisels off algae. A creek chub will be
forward (terminal) and "smiling", a fathead minnow will be forward and
"puckering" and a bluntnose minnow (which I dont' think are down there) will
be subterminal and kinda "lip tied" like some grandpas like to make faces at
their grandchildren :)

A pugnose will be completely on the tip of the face, and I think the angle of
the shot led us down that road.

The Muddy Maumee Madness, Toledo, OH
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