Re: RE: NANFA-L-- More Fish IDs

dlmcneely-in-lunet.edu
Mon, 22 May 2006 20:23:59 -0500

The Pimephales that occurs throughout most of Texas is P. vigilax, the
bullnosed minnow.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Crail, Todd" <tcrail-in-UTNet.UToledo.Edu>
Date: Monday, May 22, 2006 7:53 pm
Subject: RE: NANFA-L-- More Fish IDs
> Looks like another stoneroller to me, esp 1g.jpg.
>
> At that size, when you have stonerollers, creek chubs and
> Pimephales species
> together (which is most all of the eastern US), you really have to
> analize the
> mouth. There aren't hard and fast rules that work 100% on spots etc.
>
> The stoneroller will have an open "c" looking mouth completely
> below the
> "nose" (subterminal). With it, it chisels off algae. A creek
> chub will be
> forward (terminal) and "smiling", a fathead minnow will be forward
and
> "puckering" and a bluntnose minnow (which I dont' think are down
> there) will
> be subterminal and kinda "lip tied" like some grandpas like to
> make faces at
> their grandchildren :)
>
> A pugnose will be completely on the tip of the face, and I think
> the angle of
> the shot led us down that road.
>
> Todd
> The Muddy Maumee Madness, Toledo, OH
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