Re: NANFA-- RE: Farthest and highest

Tom Watson (onefish2fish_at_comcast.net)
Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:18:58 -0800

BG

The Olympic Mudminnow is found naturally to an elevation of 135 meters. One
population has been found at an elevation of 240 meters but these fish were
found in a location outside the fishes native range and are believed to be
the result of a human attempt to extend the fishes range.

Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "BG Granier" <shinerscoop_at_bellsouth.net>
To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 3:32 AM
Subject: Re: NANFA-- RE: Farthest and highest

> Ray,
>
> You brought to mind another question, what is the highest elevation that
the
> Olympia mudminnow (hubbsi <?) are found?
>
> BG
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "R. W. Wolff" <choupiqu_at_wctc.net>
> To: <nanfa_at_aquaria.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 12:00 AM
> Subject: Re: NANFA-- RE: Farthest and highest
>
>
> > I always wondered why mudminnows don't range further north. You can find
> > them here, and sometimes sticklebacks ( brook) in the middle of the
woods
> in
> > shallow ponds that almost certainly freeze solid. Of course ground
> currents
> > and springs are common in these areas. Regardless, they can hack the
cold
> > sure enough.
> >
> > On the other hand, I wonder why central mudminnows don't do well further
> > south. They seem to handle heat just fine, and trout have been stocked
> much
> > further south. Muds seem to disperse in spring floods, and I would have
to
> > think over the years they would have made their way around from the
> > Mississippi River up some tributaries further south.
> >
> > Probably just expecting too much of this fantastic little fish.
> > Incidentally, I like to call them pygmy pike. I found a common name for
> them
> > in the old Shedd aquarium book I just got from an older friend, yes the
> book
> > with the albino bowfin in it. It called mudminnows mud-trout. It really
> > touted these little guys. Kind of neat reading that old literature and
how
> > views of certain fish have changed.
> >
> > Ray W.
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