Re: NANFA-- choices

Robert Carillio (darterman_at_hotmail.com)
Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:50:13 EDT

AMEN!!!... AMEN!!!... I could not have said that better. I am not going to
be led to slaughter, this is exactly what the consumption and chamber market
hopes to achieve.... a bunch of brain dead Americans who are controlled by
consumption driven media. It all goes back to what I said in the
begining.... PEOPLE DON"T KNOW HOW THE EARTH WORKS!!!... For those that DO,
and still don't care..... I cannot excuse this mentality... I think it's a
whimpy cop out to surrender your values to the consumption driven media and
markets. How can anyone who has a passion for our natural heritage belive
otherwise.....

>From: Noturus_at_aol.com
>Reply-To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
>To: nanfa_at_aquaria.net
>Subject: Re: NANFA-- choices
>Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:36:05 EDT
>
>In a message dated 9/9/00 1:00:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>thirdwind_at_att.net
>writes:
>
><< Excuse me while I put on my headband and sandals and pick up my guitar
>and
> sing... "Don't it always seem to go, you don't know what you've got til
>it's
> gone. They paved paradise and put up a parking lot." :-) >>
>
>Put'em on bro.... I have to agree with you 100%. I scares the hell out of
>me
>when folks start in on "we shouldn't be regulated....it's our right to do
>this....it's my land too!" True enough, it is your land, but it's mine
>too!...and I want at least some of it to remain in working order!
>
>Moon, I lived on the NC coast for years. I almost cry when I go back now
>after just 20 years. I don't object to anyone using the beach. I can even
>live with responsible 4 wheelers doing so. But what happens when 10,000 of
>them decide it's their right to go 4-wheeling on the beach. It gets to be a
>mess pretty quickly. Like I said, I don't have problems with people using
>resources like this carefully....but at some point, there has to be
>regulation....perhaps restricting the number of daily users...I don't know.
>Like everything, there are tough choices.
>
>Loggers....I shouldn't even start here! I see the effects of clear-cutting
>almost every day in my work. But, logging is a fact of life and my computer
>is sitting on a nice wooden desk! That doesn't mean that we should accept
>logging of old growth forests! These few left should be left alone...end of
>story! There are other sources of wood out there.
>
>Around here, environmental groups like to butt heads with the Forest
>service
>over timber harvest. It usually gets them nowhere! When we have problems
>with
>the way something's being done, we try to talk to them. We suggest better
>times of year to make cuts (not when the madtoms we're working with are
>spawning!) We make suggestions as to certain areas that should receive more
>attention....more care. We ask that if they have to cut a road that it be
>done in the least damaging way at the best time of year (ie...not in spring
>when heavy rains will wash mud down on spawning fishes!). You know
>what....more often than not, they're receptive to suggestions! Not many
>reasonable folks are saying NO MORE LOGGING. That's just the cry the
>logging
>industry likes to promote.
>
>And about all this being a waste of time anyway because we're all
>doomed........you may be right! Probably are!....but I don't have to think
>like this. I don't want to be the lamb being led to slaughter! I'm going
>kicking and screaming! And if I can help protect a given stretch of river
>or
>help save an endangered species (even if just forstalling the eventual!),
>I'm
>gonna do it. If for no other reason than it makes me feel good!
>
>Better step off my soap box before I get in (more) trouble!
>
>j.r.
>
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