Re: NANFA-- korean meal... gotta sit down for this.

Tony (
Thu, 07 Sep 2000 23:00:27 +0700

Heh heh. We orientals of various Asian countries especially in rural areas
love small fishes and shrimps. I remember of one very popular dish in NE Thailand,
Laos and Cambodia that is basically lots of small fishes [usually rasboras, barbs,
"shark"s, goramies and climbing perches] mashed and put in a container with salty
water for many days to monthes before eating [raw or cooked up to your choice] with
sticky rice.
Kimchee? that is tasty! I may be wrong but it is a popular staple in Korean
cuisine. It is like pickled cabbage with chilli - sour and hot. Anyway cheers for
your bravery on taking "good cabbage gone bad", Casper!
About a flip coin of not -so -decent English... Even now I still find no
American friends who pronounce my name in my country's language right...even after
ten years:-).
The following are some questions:

1] Are these chrosomus that were the actors and actresses in the video fired up and
spawned after being kept for a long time or are they [the spawners] collected in
late winter/spring that were ripened already? Compared to ones in natural habitat
are they as brilliant? Has anyone here kept and bred redlip, greenhead, and races
of yellowfin shiners? Do they fire up like in the wild?
2] I wonder does the Mississippi Southern redbelly dace look similar to other
SRBDs elsewhere? Is it protected?
3] Anyone here kept and/or bred arrow darter and tangerine darter? Are they all
protected in every states [and cannot be kept?]?
4] I had seen a pic of whitetail shiner [Cyprinella galactura] in Fishes of Arkansas
book that shows the shiner with pink face. Are whitetail in the east similar? What
about a pink whitetail [in Hiwasee?] that was mentioned earlier sometimes ago in
this list?
5] Has anyone here seen nupital male ironcolor shiner? What do they look like?


"B.G. Granier" wrote:

> Hi All,
> NANFA member David Jones of Wilmington, Delaware has spawned Notropis
> chrosomus in a twenty-gallon long and currently has approximately 50 young.
> He uses a powerhead I think, and built a mound of coarse pebbles to simulate
> a Blue head chubs nest. He feeds the newly hatched fry APR until they've
> grown enough to accept finely crushed flake foods.
> After a water change, he noticed the males all aglow with the red that Jay
> described and when he realized that the fish were spawning, he took some
> excellent video that shows the spawning act! I have a copy of his tape if
> anyone wants to borrow it.
> I also took about 15 minutes of video tape of the fish spawning over a
> chub's nest in Beaver Creek, Monroe County, Alabama on May 10th of this
> year. The males were so colorful as to be unbeleivable unless you've seen it
> in person!
> I can also loan a tape of the wild school spawn to anyone who's interested.
> Regards,
> BG

Sajjad Lateef wrote:

> They were probably smelt (saltwater).
> "good cabbage gone bad" ... heh heh - that was kimchee <laughing
> hard> ... did you eat that without rice? If so, then I better keep my
> distance from you. Eating that stuff raw causes lots of flatulence. <grin>
> Yep, Oriental Food markets can be a lot of fun. Especially if all
> the signs are in Japanese or Korean and no one around speaks decent
> English. Eg: "Craa Mee, Sah" (Crab Meat, Sir) . Most of the seafood is
> saltwater fish/bivalves plus freshwater trout, salmon, tiliapa etc.
> But, I must commend you for being brave enough to try out Korean -
> I would not go without a Korean friend along for translation and
> interpretation.
> Sajjad
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 wrote:
> > i had lunch today...
> > a korean restaurant. ordered some kind of safe chicken thing and they brought
> > out about 8 bowls of vari food/elements/things. seaweed strands, sukinis and
> > cucumbers(?) marinated in some oily granulated mess, fish slivers in sauce (
> > pretty Good... more please ), fish broth soup, things i dont know ( even
> > after a bite or two ), good cabbage gone bad... all this was before the item
> > i ordered finally appeared... which i ended up boxing for dinner tonight.
> > the oddest thing placed before me was this bowl of shriveled up little
> > minnows. must of been about a hundred of them... from 1 to 2" long. chewy
> > little rascals. i couldnt id them proper but judging from taste i would say
> > that would have to be a sub species of the spring dwelling...hum... :)
> > if you've never visited a oriental grocery store... do so... and plan to
> > spend some real time looking above, down, behind and in crates, boxes and
> > barrels. many, many odd things. all kinds of mushrooms, canned and dried ( a
> > fav ). and strange things... canned and dried and hanging about. if you get a
> > pack of snack crackers look kinda careful cause there is sure to be a dried
> > fish, krill or "something else" one or two in the mix. ive also seen cans of
> > "dace" on the shelves. im kinda wondering if they were mislabeling stone
> > rollers...? :) them black noses are much to hard to catch local.
> > actually these little sautaeed fishies were kinda good... but i felt
> > guilty... i ate more minners in one sitting than i will inadvertently kill
> > this whole year while collecting.
> > casper

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